On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:19:02 +0200 (CEST), jeanpauljesus
<jeanpauljesus@heaven.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 13:24:01 -0500, Jerry wrote:
>
>> Brandon D Cartwright <user@example.net> wrote in
>> news:v40ud4p9k4nl865k0moq5bmfthfk7irdvo@4ax.com:
>>
>>
>>> http://www.warriorsforinnocence.org/
>>>
>>> Tom has a secret...
>>>
>>> Tom has a secret he doesn't tell anyone about. He doesn't want his wife
>>> Molly, or his kids to know. **
>>>
>>> It's not really that big of a deal. It's not like he really does
>>> anything, and he doesn't hurt anyone.
>>>
>>> Tom likes to watch porn on the internet. All of his fantasies are just
>>> a click away. It's free, but there are these great sites where you pay
>>> a small fee, and then you get to see some really good stuff.
>>>
>>> Tom uses a flash drive to download lots of sexy pictures and videos.
>>> That way his wife will never find it.
>>>
>>> The more he watches, the more he likes it. He even likes it when the
>
>>> US Attorney Bob Balfe says, "Statistics show that 85 percent of people
>>> we prosecute for child pornography are also child molesters .."
>
>I'd like to see the source of those numbers. What statistics and where
>are these published?
>
>Also let's not forget that what is CP is now incredibly broadly defined.
>Sexual penetration is also very broadly defined eg a finger in the mouth
>is (legally) sexual penetration in many jurisdictions, just as a hand on
>a thigh can be sexual assault.
>
>I'm not saying there aren't images of penis/vagina/anus penetration, I'm
>sure there are. But this still comes from the paradigm that says a minor
>engaged in sexual activity (including some kind of penetration) is always
>being harmed. That is disputable and depends on exactly what is
>happening.
>
>As for violent images of torture or forced sex - personally I would find
>these disturbing. And yes, believe it or not, there are underage boys
>who enjoy anal penetration, though I personally have not done that - this
>is obvious from the number of underage gays who are fucking each other.
>As for images of say 3yo, I find these cute in the sense of baby picture
>cute only. These don't turn me on. Call me old fashioned.
>
>What I mean by all this is the caricature in this article is misleading.
>Never forget that the vast majority of charges laid do not include any
>kind of sadistic activity or torture. That's be like saying that
>allegedly "normal" adult heterosexuals with a porn collection (which also
>BTW contains a lot of shit they don't even know they have) are into
>violent S&M and are really potential psychopathic rapists and killers. In
>fact, the vast majority of child sex charges laid do not even include
>penetration, since they have been charging people for the slightest
>possible infraction of the sexual assault laws for some years now on the
>"slippery slope" principle, including touching a thigh.
>
>The "slippery slope" principle is a very bad basis for lawmaking in any
>area. In effect, it is prosecuting people for what they *might* do,
>according to whatever figures are cooked up, which is a fundamentally
>against any notion of fairness. To be consistent, we should bring in
>heavy penalties for women who *might* beat their babies, to name one
>example, or marijuana smokers, since they *might* turn into crack heads
>and kill someone.
>
>So, as usual, offences are aggregated into one big basket and sweeping
>generalizations and caricatures of monsters are sketched crudely out and
>handed to the ever-drooling media, where Brandon reads them and posts
>them here.
>
A good post, jpj, even though I think you are wasting your time
engaging in any sort of dialogue with these uninformed loudmouths,
impervious as they are to anything that challenges their unenlightened
bigotry. You cannot reason people out of a position they couldn't
possibly have reasoned themselves into in the first place. You could
hold a better conversation with a plank
They're as mad as the Creationists who have convinced themselves God
created the World in 6 days The inter-relationship between the species
so immaculately planned that there would have to be, along with the
fully-grown trees-LOL-(the 3rd day), some ready-rotted logs & plenty
of dead animals to hand for the scavengers & wood-lice, etc, (cos He
created them all individually by hand!!!), down to the very last ant &
pine-needle, rotifier & bacillus. See what I mean. Don't bother with
them:- in their stultifying opacity they're not worth the powder & the
shot.
I am pleased however to note you have stripped away the endless group
headers so blindly followed by these trolling blabbers.
Mephi
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