::Y-Not:: wrote:
> In article <cr0ahj$2cr$0@pita.alt.net>, James Riske
> <james_riske@nothingwillhappen_hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I think this is a good enough motive for pedophile "boy-lovers" who
>>claim to put the childs interests above their own to commit suicide.
>>If any of you vile sickos have a bit of money make sure your victims get
>>it after you wipe yourself from the earth, it's the least you could do...
>>
>>
>>http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/articles/1166887.html
>>
>>
>>Victim of alleged pedophile will cash in on his estate
>>
>>The alleged victim, now 23 years old, will receive half of Matthew
>>Lipman's assets. He says the Hermosa Beach resident molested him as a
>>child.
>>By Denise Nix
>>Daily Breeze
>>
>>When he was about 11 years old, he met Mathew Lipman on the beach.
>>Lipman saw a potentially exceptional athlete and they quickly became
>>friends. For the next eight or so years, Lipman was his coach, a
>>stand-in parent and his molester.
>>
>>The abuse bothered the boy. But he never said anything, fearing he
>>would lose all the great things that came with Lipman's fellowship.
>>
>>This is a common pedophile-victim phenomenon, according to
>>psychologists who gave deposition testimony in a lawsuit the boy, now
>>23, filed against Lipman's estate after Lipman, 49, committed suicide
>>while under investigation.
>>
>>Pedophiles first put themselves in a position where they have access to
>>children -- like coaching, the clergy or teaching, said UCLA human
>>sexuality professor Paul Abramson.
>>
>>Then, once they gain the child's and parents' trust, the pedophile will
>>create situations in which they are alone with the child and give the
>>child affection, attention or gifts that will make the child view the
>>relationship as positive and worthwhile, Abramson testified.
>>
>>"It's a common question that defense attorneys will ask kids. 'Well,
>>other than the bad part, was he a good guy?' " Abramson said during his
>>Dec. 2 deposition.
>>
>>"They will say, 'Yeah, he is a good guy,' " Abramson added. "Being the
>>good guy is the act or conduit through which they molest the kids.
>>Because if they weren't good guys, the kids would say, 'I'm not going
>>to hang around with that one.' "
>>
>>A jury will never hear Abramson's testimony, as the lawsuit was settled
>>earlier this month just as jury selection was about to begin in
>>Torrance Superior Court.
>>
>>The plaintiff will receive half of Lipman's assets, which include some
>>personal possessions, bank accounts and a Hermosa Beach house in the
>>200 block of Second Street, estimated to be worth $850,000 to $1
>>million, according to the plaintiff's attorney, Albro Lundy.
>>
>>"The bottom line for us was (the lawsuit was) a way in which my client
>>could get justice and closure and, really, if truth be told, it was
>>going to be a very sad, sad trial," Lundy said, noting that it would
>>have probably lasted through Christmas.
>>
>>Eric F. Edmunds Jr., the attorney who represented Lipman's estate,
>>confirmed the case had been settled, including cross-claims the estate
>>filed against the plaintiff's parents. But Edmunds declined to discuss
>>the case or settlement in detail.
>>
>>"It would have been a very bruising and unpleasant experience that I
>>think was best avoided all around," Edmunds added.
>>
>>The depositions in the case hint that the estate, overseen by Lipman's
>>sister Michele Lipman, was positioning a defense that purported to show
>>the man's parents were negligent for allowing him to live with Lipman
>>and that the contact was consensual.
>>
>>In his deposition, the plaintiff, whose identifying information is
>>being withheld to protect his privacy, said for about a year after he
>>met Lipman on Mothers Beach in Marina del Rey that he would see Lipman
>>on the weekends.
>>
>>Lipman coached him and, after games, he would go to Lipman's house
>>where he would watch television, eat and play with the cat.
>>
>>But when he started showering at Lipman's house, he noticed Lipman
>>watching him, the plaintiff testified.
>>
>>The fifth or sixth time he showered there, Lipman reached in and
>>fondled him, he said.
>>
>>During questioning by Edmunds, the plaintiff acknowledged he never said
>>"no" or that he didn't like it, even as the fondling continued for
>>years. He did rebuff several attempts by Lipman to have sex or oral sex
>>with him, he said.
>>
>>Lived with man as teen
>>
>>The man lived with Lipman for about four years beginning in the 10th
>>grade so that he could attend a school with a good sports team. His
>>parents, who were divorced, gave guardianship to Lipman, saying in
>>their own depositions that they never had any reason to mistrust him
>>and liked that their son was getting opportunities he wouldn't have
>>living with either of them.
>>
>>He moved away, but around Thanksgiving 2002, returned to Hermosa Beach
>>for a visit and stayed with Lipman, who is alleged to have raped him at
>>knife point.
>>
>>Embarrassed, the plaintiff said he still chose not to tell anyone about
>>Lipman. But six months later, when he learned Lipman allegedly made a
>>pass at his younger brother, he called the Hermosa Beach Police
>>Department.
>>
>>"The week before I was watching TV and I saw an episode of 'Law and
>>Order' about child molesters, and that was a deciding factor in my
>>decision to go to the police," he said. "It kind of snapped me into
>>reality about the magnitude of what was going on and the possibility of
>>him doing this to other people."
>>
>>The plaintiff knew Lipman was involved with the Catholic Big Brothers,
>>had hosted a foreign exchange student and had contact with other
>>children through sports, although he added he has no reason to believe
>>Lipman molested anyone else.
>>
>>Sgt. Steve Endom flew to the man's out-of-state city and had the man
>>place a scripted, tape-recorded call to Lipman on June 6, 2003.
>>
>>In the conversation, Lipman apologized, but said he was careful to
>>never force the boy to do anything and denied that he sodomized the man
>>the previous fall.
>>
>>"I wasn't trying to hurt you. I, as a matter of fact, you actually were
>>my best friend," Lipman said, according to the transcript.
>>
>>The man answered: "I was a little kid. Why would you do that when I was
>>so young? Did you think that would make me more of a friend?"
>>
>>"I just, I was just trying to be close to you," Lipman replied.
>>
>>Search turned up items
>>
>>When Lipman was arrested, he gave evasive answers to Endom about the
>>molestations. A search of Lipman's home turned up a smashed hard drive,
>>videocassettes with the magnetic tape pulled out and torn-up pictures
>>of the plaintiff that were not pornographic. Police also found a
>>collection of movies that had common themes of young boys coming of
>>age.
>>
>>As the investigation continued, Lipman was out on bail. Sometime around
>>June 21, 2003, he committed suicide by suffocating himself. He left
>>behind a note that said some of the allegations were true, some were
>>lies.
>>
>>He wrote that his "best friend betrayed me," and that, along with other
>>problems, he is extremely claustrophobic. "I'd rather be dead than
>>spend a year in jail," he wrote.
>>
>>Edmunds asked the plaintiff during his deposition in June if he was
>>sorry he lived with Lipman.
>>
>>"No. There are many great things that came with me living with him.
>>There are many not so great things that came about from me living with
>>him," answered the man, who is now married.
>>
>>Edmunds also asked how the plaintiff felt about Lipman being dead.
>>
>>"I wish he was alive and well, just like he was when I was with him,"
>>he answered.
>>
>>Abramson testified that Lipman had "total emotional disregard" for the
>>man, both when he molested him and then when he blamed him for his
>>death. Lipman traumatized the man, he said.
>>
>>"All of his behavior was part of an act of courtship to gain access --
>>access and confidence to (the plaintiff) and his family so he could
>>sexually molest him and that was the purpose of it," Abramson said.
>>
>>"If he was a true parent or his quasi-parent or whatever else, you
>>don't sexually molest your kid and you don't kill yourself for your
>>kid, and that's what this guy did," Abramson said.
>>
>>Abramson is also a paid expert witness in a child molesting case
>>profiled by Sports Illustrated in 1999 and on the "Oprah Winfrey Show".
>>In that case, Norm Watson, a Little League coach, was discovered to be
>>a convicted child molester.
>>
>>When the Little League board was notified, it stood by Watson. The
>>parents of the kids, though, called for an investigation and it turned
>>out Watson was still molesting children.
>>
>>A lot of times, when a child molester doesn't fit a preconceived
>>profile, people -- often parents -- don't even think twice about it,
>>Abramson said.
>>
>>This was the case with Lipman. The boy's father said he thought Lipman
>>was a "guy's guy" and thought of molestations in terms of "dirty old
>>man/young girl," Abramson testified.
>>
>>Molesters may not fit profile
>>
>>"Successful pedophiles are successful because of the manner in which
>>they are able to deflect the ability to perceive them as pedophiles,"
>>Abramson added.
>>
>>Even responsible parents wouldn't think to perform background checks
>>and question every adult who comes into contact with their children,
>>Abramson found.
>>
>>Lundy, the plaintiff's attorney, who said the Lipman case raised
>>concerns for him since he has two boys and lived close by, wants
>>parents to be aware that child molesters aren't always the overt demons
>>they would expect.
>>
>>"Satan was the most beautiful angel," Abramson said, "and that's why he
>>was able to seduce so many."
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> Thank you for posting this. We all need to be reminded of the bad
> things, so we can be on guard against them, and can be more aware of
> the bad possibilities, so we can work to prevent them.
>
> There is one thing I should mention about this. Mr. Abramson is
> obviously not a psychologist. He made, as reported, many assumptions
> that are unsupported by the observed facts, regarding psychological
> matters, some of which are obviously false. Why should we care? Because
> we need to understand the REAL TRUTH about these situations, and not
> just what angry people want to hear, so we can have a better chance of
> preventing these things from happening, and can more effectively treat
> the survivors. Misinformation, for the purpose of prosecution, does NOT
> help our true understanding of these matters.
>
>
Stop molesting boys and "these situations" will not occur.
--
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do
nothing."--Edmund Burke
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