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From: nesScitur@husShmail.com (Ronin)
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Subject: Re: [AFP] Does anyone remember?
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 09:54:19 GMT
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On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 22:30:28 -0400, Doc NP-f31 wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 02:08:11 GMT, nesScitur@husShmail.com (Ronin)
> wrote:
>>On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 16:01:55 -0400, Doc NP-f31 wrote:
>>> Does anyone remember what we were doing ten years ago this week in The
>>> Fort? I'll bet Grant does, and I'll bet Ninja does if he's peeking.
>>> And I'll bet Tommy does and I'll bet Chad does if he thinks about it
>>> real hard. And I KNOW Ronin does because that's when he first peeked
>>> his nose into The Fort.
>>> There is another who knows, but I haven't seen him for years. NPf30,
>>> are you around?
>>> I'll check back to see who remembers.
>>> Love to all,
>>> Doc
>>> NP-f31
>> O-Doc-san:
>> Actually, Ronin's hairy eyeball (nose? *peek*?) has been on The Fort
>> since about the time that posts signed "nopubes" disappeared -- only
>> to be replaced by syntactically-similar posts signed "sebupon".
>> That Ronin's oar got stuck in the Fort Pool resulted from a poster
>> presenting himself as a boy, "Spencer", being given relationship
>> advice by The Fortsters with regard to a younger friend, "Ricky",
>> which, if followed, carried a high potential risk of ending that
>> friendship, and badly. Ronin argued, rather clumsily, against
>> this advice, to no great effect; and, in the event, Ricky wound
>> up running away, in tears.
>> It still hurts.
>> Ronin
> Hey Ronin,
> Your memory is a good one. Spencer struggled with how to handle that
> situation. He had lots of advice, some good, some not so good. In the
> end, he made his choice on the spur of the moment. And as you said, it
> ended badly. He had misread Ricky. Not surprising, considering how old
> they were then. But, it was still The Fort's finest hour, everyone was
> trying their best to help Spencer figure himself out. He had us all
> turned on our ear.
> Do you remember what happened soon thereafter?
> Love,
> Doc
> NP-f31
O-Doc-san:
Soon thereafter, a person representing himself as Spencer's father
posted a message into The Fort expressing displeasure with said Fort
and also with said Spencer; after some sheepish footshuffling, the
thread wound down and the ripples died away. Some time after that,
a relayed message purportedly from Spencer related that things were
not at all that well with him ...
A few not-quite-right-but-not-quite-wrong details in the "Spencer"
posts suggested possibilities other than that presented, three of
the more likely being a sting of some sort, a graduate student in
one of the "social sciences" doing research (or at least telling
himself that he was doing research) in paedophile newsgroups for
a doctoral dissertation, and a boy-lover of uncommon perspicacity
wishing to point out that some boys are extremenly uncomfortable
with their increasingly-hard-to-ignore sexuality, to the extent
that they may panic in a situation where they *cannot* pretend
IT isn't happening.
Taken at their face value, the minimum-assumptions sense to be
made of the Spencer posts seemed to be that Ricky was looking for
Something The Right Temperature to be next to that wasn't a Mum
or a Dad (or a *girl*), and that Spencer's strong feelings for
Ricky included a strong desire to make Ricky happy/feel good:
not explicitly sexual, but definitely very physical. It was
not, then, so much that Spencer misread Ricky as that The Fort
misread both Spencer and Ricky -- not surprising, considering
The Fortsters.
And so Ronin unshipped oar.
Parenthetically, all this illustrates splendidly the fatal
defect in *do as be done by* as a general ethical principle:
it works only for *others* essentially the same as *ye*.
As it happens, the matter of what may cynically be described
as *seducing a shy boy* is dealt with at length in the Niklas
story "Homesick"; google
niklas homesick
for a link. (This story is an outlier in the Niklas canon,
both in its length and in its inclusion of explicit boy/boy
eroticism; perhaps it is to some extent autobiographical?
But the outcome is at least hopeful.)
As may be: it still hurts; and one remembers a lost tooth.
Ronin
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