In reply to "insane4boys" who wrote the following:
> In reply to "C-O,Z'-M.OS," who wrote the following:
>
> > insane4boys <nevermind@notsaying.net> wrote in
> > news:4f31a3b8$0$26104$c3e8da3$c14f6927@news.astraweb.com:
> >
> > > In reply to "C-O,Z'-M.OS," who wrote the following:
> > >
> > > > insane4boys <nevermind@notsaying.net> wrote in
> > > > news:4f30ae8a$0$40428$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com:
> > > >
> > > > > In reply to "insane4boys" who wrote the following:
> > > > >
> > > > > > In reply to " +Grant. " who wrote the following:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > <4f309a77$0$38491$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>,
> > > > > > > insane4boys <nevermind@notsaying.net> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In reply to "nesScitur@husShmail.com (Ronin)" who wrote the
> > > > > > > > following:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > X-No-Archive: yes
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 07 Feb 2012 01:32:02 GMT, insane4boys
> > > > > > > > > <nevermind@notsaying.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Can be found here: http://chan.onlyhot.biz/<snip>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > And ignore what Erik says. There is nothing wrong with
> > > > > > > > > > that site. :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > With one eyebrow raised, but without sarcastic intent, one
> > > > > > > > > might politely
> > > > > > > > > inquire,
> > > > > > > > > *and precisely how do you know this?*
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And what outcomes might attend to this site -- and similar
> > > > > > > > > sites -- being
> > > > > > > > > in fact wholly-owned subsidiaries of <interpol.gov.eu>, or
> > > > > > > > > <dofj.gov.us>,
> > > > > > > > > or some other Kindersexualmisgebrauchsonderpolizeikommando?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > One might try googling "what is my IP address", sticking
> > > > > > > > > one's toe in the
> > > > > > > > > resulting waters, and meditating long and deep upon the
> > > > > > > > > implications.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ronin
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That's probably the most confusing thing I've ever read.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi I4B.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think I have to say this. I agree with Ronin. Some of our
> > > > > > > best security experts have said a lot that we shouldn't go to
> > > > > > > any web site that's posted in any group were it's known that
> > > > > > > people go to who might have illegal porn on their computers.
> > > > > > > Cops aren't stupid. They see these links just like we do, and
> > > > > > > they DO watch them. Sometimes they even take them over. We
> > > > > > > should expect them to record all the IP addresses of all who
> > > > > > > visit there, and any other information about the visitors as
> > > > > > > possible for them to get.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sure the site might not have anything illegal on it, but
> > > > > > > wouldn't cop expect that a lot of the traffic is from people
> > > > > > > who do have illegal things from other places, and are maybe
> > > > > > > even doing illegal things to kids, too? They can't get
> > > > > > > warrant from what you do there, but that won't stop them from
> > > > > > > tracking you, and everybody else. Information adds up. It could
> > > > > > > take years, and often does, for them to piece a case together
> > > > > > > to catch somebody.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Then there is the other side of the issue. Some cops post here.
> > > > > > > Some of that has had web links, specifically to trap posters.
> > > > > > > Some very security conscious people here could think that ANY
> > > > > > > poster who does that might be a cop. Impersonations happen,
> > > > > > > too. I REALLY don't want people to think that badly of you!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think I might look a little selfish here when I say I don't
> > > > > > > want to lose any of my few possible readers because of poor
> > > > > > > security practices. I offer a suggestion. Instead of sharing
> > > > > > > link, which might look and be suspicious, how about sharing the
> > > > > > > pictures instead?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But not for me. I don't download anything from these groups,
> > > > > > > and don't go to any web sites posted here. My computers are
> > > > > > > clean. I'm too much of a coward to jeopardize the great life
> > > > > > > have now by doing anything that could get me in trouble.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > About Ronin. He's a genius. Probably one of the smartest people
> > > > > > > to ever post here. A little odd, too, but that goes with the
> > > > > > > territory. He's good man. We should not ignore what he says,
> > > > > > > even if it's a little bit of a problem to figure it out
> > > > > > > sometimes. wonder what he might say about that. Probably
> > > > > > > something interesting.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Take care and good luck.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (Next Stephen stories start a new life of a ten year old boy.
> > > > > > > lot of exciting adventures happen after the 13 introductory
> > > > > > > posts. Like going all over the galaxy and messing with aliens!
> > > > > > > Oh, and summer camp, too. And different cultures on Earth. And
> > > > > > > physical fun.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Grant
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I completely understand you there. Thank you very much for
> > > > > > looking out for
> > > > > > our
> > > > > > safety :) Personally, I use TOR when I go to that site and would
> > > > > > recommend others do the same to be safe. :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > > I've also decided to stop posting there myself since they don't
> > > > > allow people using TOR to post.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Hi Insane
> > > >
> > > > You should really ponder the ramifications of your last statement!
> > > >
> > > > "I've also decided to stop posting there myself since they don't
> > > > allow people Using TOR to post."
> > > >
> > > > What on earth could be the reason for such a site, that by its very
> > > > nature garners material from the fringe of legality, and in all
> > > > probability itself breaking the law through hosting copyright
> > > > violated content? That elects none the less sets its upload servers
> > > > to only accept direct connections, and maintain a proxy blacklist?
> > > >
> > > > I am glad that you now use Tor, when I last discussed security with
> > > > you it left me concerned for your future welfare.
> > > >
> > > > Regards Cosmos
> > >
> > > You make some very good points there as well Cosmos. When you mention
> > > maintaining a proxy blacklist, do you mean that people using TOR can
> > > in fact be traced to their original IP's?
> > >
> > >
> > No,
> > Tor is a good way of improving your security in screening your IP from
> > sites that seek to log the address from visitors, What we cannot be sure
> > of is who owns the machines that are set as Tor relays.
> >
> > If you run your own tor set-up on windows OS then you probably have it
> > run from the Vidalia controll pannel?
> >
> > In your tool tray D/click the green onion to open the control panel, then
> > select and click the view the network (Blue planet) this will show you
> > the location and IP address of all the folks who's computers/servers are
> > available to rout your encrypted connections.
> >
> > These could be collage facility, private, even your or my computer, in
> > fact you will see that they are very diverse geographically.
> >
> > Nothing is perfect but its free and with some extra paid for proxy
> > servers it can be made a little more secure depending on your paranoia.
> >
> > If you select "setting up relaying", your own computer could also become
> > a tor relay node, not a big deal for just relaying traffic, but a thicker
> > hide required for running an exit relay node as this setting has greater
> > potential personal ramifications.
> > If your ISP connection were capped then this would burn some of your
> > bandwidth allowance, though you can set this at an acceptable level.
> >
> > When I talk of a proxy blacklist it means that the sight has blocked
> > connections from all the identified IP address of these servers
> >
> > Regards Cosmos
>
> Ah, I understand what you mean. Hmmmmmmmmm, are you saying I can use TOR and
> proxy at the same time? I should try it out.
>
>
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, if I use a proxy, it turns TOR off and when I turn TOR on, it
shuts the proxy off. Guess I can't do both at the same time unless you know a
way.
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