On 3 Dec 2010 04:55:02 -0600, Sir Charles <queen@elisabeth.com> wrote:
>Doc NP-f31 wrote in news:v0h8f61lcghbm9d2boqd3ganhttq1v9r8v@4ax.com:
>
>> Hello Aleka/No Pubes OOO,
>>
>> I received my first response today from one of my boys, L. L is a
>> Brit, he is 17 and from the ages of 8-12 he was molested by a
>> photographer from London (whom we refer to as DHM). About a year ago,
>> when the molester was arrested L had to face the world about what was
>> done to him. He'd lived with the secret for four years (the entire
>> time I had known him). When the news was made public and the police
>> called him in for questioning L was stricken with shame and guilt for
>> what was done to him. As he says, what he allowed to happen.
>>
>> He responded immediately to my request for comments on your most
>> recent post, which is available in another thread from 11/23.
>>
>> L writes:
>>
>> Dear Doc,
>>
>> Do you really think what I have to say to this man will change how
>> he feels and change his behaviour? He has to want to change before
>> change will occur. From the correspondences you have shared with
>> me, he seems to try to legitimise his paedophilia by amplifying
>> more terrible things, i.e., Nazis killing millions of Jews, Stalin
>> killing innocent people, even G.W.Bush's war that has killed men,
>> women, and children. God, how does paedophilia rank up against all
>> those. Surely, it can't be that bad <sarcasm>.
>>
>> And then, to justify the abuse of boys in the name of "love".
>> C'mon...really? I can maybe understand a little of his delusion. I
>> let DHM get a foot in because I was searching for someone to pay
>> attention to me and I liked that attention and I thought I loved
>> him, and I let him touch me and kiss me. The feelings I had were
>> conflicted. I wanted him to love me and I was afraid if I told him
>> I didn't want to have sex with him that he would discard me and my
>> career would be over as a model, and I would be back where I
>> started...looking for attention. So, we had sex. I didn't like it,
>> but I let it happen over and over. When I finally decided to tell
>> him, he became angry and he wouldn't listen to me. I would go home
>> and stand in a steaming hot shower and weep. That was my only
>> outlet. Being a Brit, I just couldn't tell my family. I was
>> embarrassed. On days when I had to go out for a shoot, I got
>> physically sick and vomitted, but I was pushed by that same family
>> I wanted to tell so badly, so I'd go. And he would touch me and
>> "pose" me and find a way to be alone with me (extend the shoot,
>> offer to take me home).
>>
>> I'm not telling you anything you don't already know, Doc. This
>> "No Pubes" guy sounds like he is really smooth and slimey. His
>> comment, "If I had to work with abused boys, I would abuse them by
>> NOT telling them I am looking at their ass, thights, fresh skin, large
>> eyes, smooth and silky hair...". C'mon, really? Is this his way of
>> justifying his lust by trying to turn it around and blame the boy
>> because, THE BOY wants to hear that bullshit? Seriously? He is
>> delusional! Okay, let me make sure I get this right...
>>
>> No Pubes thinks abused boys want to hear they have a sweet arse,
>> that it feels good to have an adult-sized cock shoved up that
>> really sweet arse, or shoved down the beautiful, fresh skin throat
>> that he has been slobering all over minutes before? And maybe I can
>> keep my long, silky, smooth hair that way because he shoots his wad
>> all over my face and hair and into my large, seductive, doe-like
>> eyes? Could that be the trick, Doc?
>>
>> I think you are wasting your time with this guy because he thinks
>> he is providing a good service to boys. He doesn't get it and
>> doesn't WANT to get it, so why waste your time on this slimeball?
>> You can't fix him Doc. He doesn't want to be fixed. He is an
>> abuser and he will eventually get caught and then he will see how
>> it really feels from the boy's point of view. I hope he gets raped
>> for everytime he provided his "civic duty" to a boy, and may God,
>> NEVER have mercy on his soul.
>>
>> It is ALL about him, Doc, not about the boy, and that is what
>> makes you so very different from this dilusional piece of shit. If
>> he touched one of my brothers or any other boy I care about, I'd
>> hunt him down and serve a little of my own retribution. You know
>> what? Maybe No Pubes will get lucky and "compliment" one of those
>> courageous, abused boys about his sweet, fresh-skin arse as the boy
>> is plunging a blade into his hairy, pock-marked chest, over, and
>> over, and over.
>>
>> Does that give you an idea of how I really feel about this animal?
>>
>> Love,
>>
>> L
>>
>> ***************************
>> I talked to T-Bone and he promises to make arrangements to comment in
>> the coming days. My third boy, T, was abused by the self same DHM that
>> abused L, but T told. He is currently in intensive counseling and will
>> hopefully be released to his Mum as early as next week. If he is up to
>> the task, he will also address your post.
>>
>> I will make no judgments and let the boys words do the talking.
>>
>> Stay Safe and work toward unselfishness,
>>
>> Doc
>> NP-f31
>>
>
>Bravo Dog! Have you finished to crown yourself as the good man who must
>'instruct' the criminals of this world? What a fucking good samaritan you
>are! But... let me see, an 'abused when child' good samaritan??
>Awawaw...lier, lier, pants on fire. Perhaps the next thing we'll hear about
>you is that you are a genious child and a ninja from Mars x). I guess a bad
>shrink like you understand well how a fraudulent fact can, somehow, settle
>conveniently the audience towards emphaty feelings, intimidation,
>compassion...
Hello 'Sir Charles',
As you have nothing constructive to add to this conversation, you
immediately resort to insults. It does nothing nothing to promote your
point of view, because of course you didn't provide one.
>Well, well, good people of Fortland, for those of you who think this guy
>can't reach the insidious level from old partner and guru Y'nuts, the story
>of little LL can stand, at least, as subject of some reflection. And about
>me, sincerely Dog, your activity here begins to seriously irritate myself.
LOL! The best news I've had all day.
>Maybe it's time for you to get a proper spank, what do you say Dog? Would
>you be as instructive as you are now with a blue ribbon stuck on your door?
>It could be a good chance to understand the difference between the good and
>the bad guys, don't you think? Just kidding, old cunt.
>Aleka mon ami, don't pay attention to these pitiful men.
>They condemn the
>tight freedom you got for yourself because they are indeed trapped by their
>own compliant dreams about love and live. They preach about unselfishness
>at the same time that they seal their dazed idealism. What an incongruity.
Please explain how so? It is obvious that I am much happier and well
adjusted with my fate in life as a boylover. You are displeased with
everything. What a sad way to live.
>Little children they are, and -in their own words- selfish, very, very very
>selfish. Didn't you hear before the folk proverb "what you boast about is
>what you lack". It's very applicable here in this group. By the way, if you
>want some access to the really good things piled up in the groups just let
>me know.
>Little LL, for having swallowed so much british sperm you didn't keep much
>of the accent. You know, you can't teach me a damn thing about myself, but
>you can suck my cock whenever you want.
Here is L's addendum to his original contribution.
No Pubes,
I like sex and have it as often as I can. When I was about 11 (6
years ago), I thought sex was the best thing on the planet. I can
understand why DHM (the man who became my abuser) thought I wanted
sex. The first three years I was with him, it was all about him
getting me off and me letting him take nude pictures of me. I was
used to being photographed because that was my job. My mum is
Portugese/Spanish heritage and my dad is a Brit. Most Brits aren't
that cute but I had my mum's characteristics: long, very dark,
silky, straight hair; huge, very dark eyes, with very long lashes;
thick, red lips, and dark, smooth skin, a small frame. I could sell
products with my face, and I was good at
it. DHM is/was the photographer assigned to me so we worked
together all the time. He is quite handsome and I was attracted to
him, so I would "flirt" with him. He ate it up and it wasn't long
before he was sucking my willy and showing me what having an orgasm
was really supposed to feel like.
Most adults don't think kids are capable of falling in love with
someone, but they are. I fell in love with my photographer. Things
changed when he wanted to start doing things to me that made me
uncomfortable. It started with me giving him oral sex. Before, I
would just wank him until he came. He wanted me to start sucking
him. I was fine with that, but I didn't want him cumming in my
mouth. The first time he held my head and came in my mouth, I was
pissed. Then, he wanted to fuck me. When he rimmed me it felt
amazing so eventually I let him (slowly) put his willy into my
arse. It hurt and I didn't really enjoy it, but I felt obligated to
let him. He knew I didn't like it but he continued to do it and I
became more and more disenchanted with him, and finally told him I
wasn't going to have sex with him anymore (I was twelve, almost
13). He became enraged and struck me. He threatened me and told me
all the things that were going to happen to me if I didn't allow
him to do what he wanted. I have two younger brothers, and several
male cousins that I care a lot about. He knew that, and I
realised that I had to do what he said to protect them and myself.
No Pubes, I would hope that you would never hurt a boy, but just
because a boy may want you to blow him, you are not doing him a
favour. Because society's view of paedophilia is taboo and an
illness, boys, at least this boy, always felt ashamed and guilt for
letting a man blow me or fuck me. That instant after orgasm when
the boy pushes you away...what do you think he is thinking? He is
most likely disgusted with what he allowed to happen. You really
aren't doing him a service, unless you are paying him and that is
called, child prostitution; and if that's what you're doing, you
are really fucking him up.
When you have sex with a boy you affect him emotionally. You can't
always see the damage you are doing. You can't see the emotional
damage until it is usually too late, like when the boy stops eating
and taking care of himself, until he starts cutting himself, until
he starts getting stoned everyday so he doesn't have to feel
anything.
Is it about you or about the boy? It should always be about the
boy, shouldn't it? You know we really can't be trusted either. We
will lie to you because we don't want to face the truth of what we
have done. When my photographer asked me if I liked what he was
doing after I would cum, I'd tell him, "Yes". I was lying, because
I felt guilt and shame, and I really didn't want him to feel bad.
So, I was taking on his shame too. In the end, it doesn't favour
the boy. When he gets older sometimes that guilt and shame comes
back to haunt him. I tried to forget about what he did to me, but
it made me untrusting of men, and I didn't want to have anything to
do with any man, even my dad. I chose to go to a boarding school far
from home so I could get away from everything that had happened to
me. I tried running away from it.
Maybe there are boys out there that can deal with it, but the ones
that I know, that isn't the case. This same photographer abused a
friend of mine. He is a few yeaars younger than I am and he cuts
himself. He is so incredibly beautiful, and he wants to hurt the
body that he says betrayed him. He was the one that finally outed
the photographer and brought him to trial. The photographer is now
in prison, and won't see his freedom for many, many years.
No Pubes, you should take heed because eventually you will get
caught, or you will get payback. Remember, you can't really trust
us. We will eventually hurt you or turn you in.
L
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Doc
NP-f31
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