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From: HMS Victor Victorian <victorvictorian@hushunomail.com>
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Subject: Re: Boys in their Element
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:19:43 -0600
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:31:18 -0400, NP-f31 wrote:
>Last weekend my youngest son had a visit from his best friends and
>their cousin. Their Mom and my son's Mom have been friends for many
>years. Several years ago the family moved to a neighboring state and
>nowadays we only get together once a year. The best friends are
>comprised of three brothers 15, 13 and 7. My son and the 13 year old
>were born a month apart and have played together since they were
>crawling. It has been a pleasure to see these kids grow up over the
>years. More recently their growth always amazes me because so much can
>change in a year. This year by the time I got to see them the boys,
>all five of them, had been together for three days. The mix was
>fascinating, three thirteen year olds, a barely fifteen year old and
>the baby brother, now a second grader were a humorous and sexy bunch.
>We have a new leather sofa and as the boys came upstairs after having
>just awoken (this was a Saturday morning) they collapsed together on
>the couch on one big sleepy pile.
>
>The sight was captivating to me. They were laying on top of one
>another with arms and legs intertwined in various ways, faces very
>close. There was much scrotum scratching as you might expect for early
>in the morning. All but one of the teens had very long hair, which was
>disshelved and careless. I noticed one of the boys had his hand on my
>son's crotch, neither seemed to care or notice. The youngster, the
>little brother doted on by all, was wriggling and writhing on top of
>each of them in turn. They all hugged, tickled and showered him with
>very genuine affection. Added in to the mix was my son's dog (who
>thinks the sofa is his). Both my wife and my son later told me that
>the whole visit had been this way, a lovefest. It struck me that these
>younger teens had no hangups about their proximity to one another,
>even though the experience clearly had sexual overtones. There were
>frequent crotch adjustments by each of the boys. And one of the boys
>clearly had a hardon. The youngest had recently been in his lap. It
>stayed like this for a long time. They got up to have breakfast and
>when finished, put away their dishes and returned to their pileup.
>
>This set me pondering during the last week. At what point do boys
>begin to feel sexual paranoia? It has been my experience that not all
>boys can be this free and unconcerned about their bodies around others
>in a potentially sexually charged situation. This is the case in the
>Stevie stories that Grant is sharing too, although how many boys would
>remain calm when their crotch is grabbed? Is the real answer that boys
>who feel comfortable in each other's presence don't even worry about
>things like their sexuality? When I think of my son's sexuality I tend
>to see it in terms of his attraction to girls. To see him last week in
>a pile of boys with two days of built up pheromones swirling around
>them, I was surprised. Yes, I was jealous too because his friends are
>really cute! But most of all I was happy for him because of the clear
>intimacy he has with his friends and the fact that he was comfortable
>with it. I feel certain that merriment must have ensued at some point
>during the week because they also slept together in a big pile on the
>living room floor. It was also cool to see my kid be the center of
>attention for much of the time. He inspires lustful thoughts in a lot
>of people who meet him, I have no doubt; and I have heard how the
>other Mom's talk about him. I hate it that mothers can talk about each
>other's boys in sexual terms and fathers can't (unless they have
>friends like you guys in The Fort ;).
>
>I would be interested to see what others think. I am spending the week
>with two of my loved boys. Who also have a post to share. We will
>check back in as able and reply.
>
>Stay Safe,
>
>Doc
>NP-f31
Dear Doc,
In my limited experience as a fairly sheltered young lad, from the
youngest years my friends, school chums and I all participated in a
certain amount of sexual play. As five and six-year-olds, we were
particularly fascinated not by one another's penis, but by one
another's anus, and occasionally spent moments in private probing the
mysteries thereof. As we got older, that play moved to the fore, as
it were, and the closest of us would find a secluded spot where we
might flash it about for one another, dancing as we conceived the
"French" style, with our knickers just down above our knees. Older
still, in upper primary, we played todger tag and such groping games,
all very fleeting and on-the-sly. During our teens, our language grew
more lurid and boastful regarding the grandiose aspects of our
perceived sexual prowess ... but the frivolous sexual play was gone
completely. Indeed, had anyone other than the closest and most
private friend so much as attempted such play, he would have been
thoroughly ridiculed as of "questionable sexual-orientation."
When does this tendency to restrain ones sexual expression, what you
refer to as sexual paranoia, begin? Almost immediately. Mums are
forever commenting on stinky diapers while wiping a child's sphincter,
or swatting groping little paws away from the nether- regions, or
admonishing the little fellowthat one shouldn't expose oneself so, or
show THAT around, particularly to your auntie or grannie, and
particularly NOT to a stranger, who might well be a child molester!
We had no clue what a child molester was, or what one did, but we knew
that although it involved men with candy and ices, it was bad and
involved genitals in some way, and that we'd best keep them concealed!
One learned that sexual parts, and sexual expression, was nasty, and
that being nasty would bring something bad.
Later, as we grew, we learned one of the most humiliating things that
might happen to him would be to have his trousers and knickers pulled
down infront of his school chums ... worst of all, in front of girls.
Having one's sexual aspects exposed to all became a paramount fear ...
and not only in my particular culture. You will find this particular
aspect expressed in many cultures, from Asia to North America--not to
mention North Yorkshire!
At some point, one's peers take over the task once performed by one's
mother (fathers seldom, if ever, being around), and they proved to be
exceedingly effective at it. As early as ten or eleven years old, I
heard and experienced schoolmate taunts of "turd burgler" and "queer".
I shall never forget walking to the cinema with my cousin, arm-in-arm,
when an approaching boy, a complete stranger, gave us a disgusted look
and said, "What are you queer for him then?"
This process of socialisation into what is considered by all as
"proper behaviour" reaches a crescendo in the teen years. This makes
your boys' propensities ever the more surprising to me. All boys can
be cruel to one another, and many exercise that opportunity, to the
humiliation of some poor lad, whenever possible. But teenagers, in my
experience, can be utterly horrid.
In that, I consider your boys completely atypical. But that is there
and now and not here and then, so my opinion may be neither here nor
there!
V
God Save the Queen.
God Bless the Prince of Wales.
God Preserve the Windsors.
Rule Britannia!
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