In article <tfe526hpf0b6jqn82t3o4153n972pvq4ja@4ax.com>, NP-f31 wrote:
> On 22 Jun 2010 20:19:02 -0500, " +Grant. " <+Grant@grant.grant> wrote:
>
>
> >I noticed his not so mistake mistake.
>
> If you were attempting to characterize Mephi's relationship with Y-Not
> as being cooperative and harmonious, then you are being disingenuous.
> My comment on the subject was harmless and played on the irony of the
> collaboration of the two characters, you warned me ahead of time to
> expect it and I playfully commented. My intention was not to drag us
> back into a war that was pointless and long ago. If you did not
> understand that before, please rest assured that it is NOT my
> intention to pull the scab off of old wounds.
>
> >I think putting posters' names on the story characters was a mistake
> >too. They are just names! I don't want them to be used to advertise a
> >war he engineered and looks like he wants to bring back. I do *NOT*
> >want my stories to hurt fort people even if they might be dead or cause
> >more divisiveness.
>
> I appreciate the humor of your effort, the irony, the juxtaposition,
> etc. I love everything about your Stevie stories. The names of the
> characters from the Fort add fun to the stories. Please don't stop
> now.
>
> > They are for entertainment and to promote good on
> >topic discussions if people what to participate.
> >I will keep the names in the stories I already wrote. It would be too
> >much work I don't feel like doing to change them. I don't know if I
> >will do it anymore with new stories if I write them.
> >
> >There is another thing I don't like. Doc says he wants on topic
> >discussions and then says he has kill filtered good people who
> >contribute good things to the fort groups *and* his discussions so he
> >can't see them. How smart is that? What kind of message does that send
> >to other people here and his kids who might see it? Does he really want
> >good *open* discussions or is that just some manipulative lie? What
> >should we think?
>
> I have enjoyed the discussion both here in The Fort and in the other
> group. Part of the reason I have enjoyed it is because I don't see
> certain people. The same goes here. Just because you like someone,
> doesn't mean I have to. Killfiltering is an effective way to avoid
> conflict. As an example, all I had to do was mention that I had KFed
> your friend in the other group and suddenly there is a crisis and my
> motivations are being questioned in THIS group. Is that really fair?
> There are a lot of trolls that I KF. I am not interested in what they
> have to say and they don't exist in my world. Just because I don't
> have any interest in what certain posters have to say doesn't negate
> the credibilty of discussions I'm involved in, it doesn't affect their
> credibilty, nor does it affect my enjoyment of the discussions. This
> certainly seemed to be the case for others who joined in the
> discussion.
> >
> >You and Group Troll are funny and smart. You say things we should know
> >disguised as fun sometimes. I like and respect posters for that and I
> >don't like it at all when they are disrespected in public for no good
> >reason. I lose respect for somebody who does that.
>
> So what you object to is the fact that I mentioned that I killfiltered
> him? Why didn't you say so? Mover, if I in any way offended you by
> mentioning in any group that I'd killfiltered you, then I apologize
> most sincerely and publicly.
>
> Otherwise, Grant you must be losing respect for most of the people in
> this group. There is a certain Mus.cled Kittens that is probably the
> most KFed individual in all of usenet. He is nearly universally
> ignored, although if your friend is communicating with him, then I
> wouldn't know. ;)
>
> I hope this clears things up. I was stating a fact and did not intend
> to insult anyone. I would have thought it was clear to M that I wasn't
> reading him because I never mention or respond to him. He has every
> right to be here and I have every right to ignore him. If that makes
> me a manipulative liar or disrespectful, then that's just the way it's
> going to have to be.
>
> Sincerely and affectionately,
>
> Doc
> NP-f31
What I expected. Too bad you are missing some funny and informative
stuff you would enjoy. I still believe it is wrong of anybody to
deliberately not see some of the people who participate with good ideas
in the discussions *HE* wants. No real leader would be that
hypocritical.
There is something about a different post of yours here I want to
discuss. We are discussing wisdom, the golden rule, and
sympathy/empathy in this thread. While those things you didn't apply in
regard to what I just wrote above (which is your privilege if you want
people to think that of you), it reminds me that we shouldn't assume
all the posters see the newsgroups like we see them, because people use
different software with different settings, and use different servers
or web interfaces like IFB uses. Some newsreaders separate text
messages from posts with attachments by default, so people might not
know there are text messages that go with file posts. Software groups
usually post the info as an attachment because of this. Some people
could have their newsreaders show only a week of posts to allow faster
updates. Some servers have very poor retention too. Newscene does! So
maybe we shouldn't be so hard on people who don't know that password
info has been discussed in regular messages that are off their servers,
or they wouldn't have seen at all.
--
Grant
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