On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:16:05 -0500, "::Y-Not::" <+10$-Y-Not@here.com>
wrote:
>In article <56jsn19p0qbuv438j37rioaec8ngdaeacu@4ax.com>,
><MichaellikeGod@heaven> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:01:23 -0500, "::Y-Not::" <+10$-Y-Not@here.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >> >
>> >> >> P.S. These are the views of God and not of my own.
>> >> >
>>
>> >
>> >What does "inspire" mean, and which authority says that it is to be
>> >applied to the Bible?
>> >
>> >As an artist, I'm inspired by many things I see, to create my art.
>> >The tree that inspires me to sculpt my vision of it, does NOT sculpt it
>> >for me. It is MY creation, that it's physical aspects MOTIVATED me to
>> >exercise my artistic ability. That creation is unique. My next
>> >rendition of that same tree, will necessarily be different, because I
>> >would then be a different person, so my vision would be different, even
>> >if I had the same inspiration.
>> >"Inspire" means to motivate someone to do something, not do it for
>> >someone, or put words in their hands. The Bible is clearly created by
>> >Man, because God wouldn't have put so many mistakes in it. For example,
>> >the Gospels disagree on when Jesus entered Jerusalem. Was it just
>> >before Passover, or not? The Bible is full of similar inconsistencies
>> >and contradictions, that a perfect God would not himself create.
>> >
>> >Humans are created with the need to recognize something higher then
>> >themselves. True atheism isn't possible. Humans have great difficulty
>> >with worshiping ah, nothing. God is supposed to be invisible, so what
>> >do we worship? We NEED something, so we make idols to worship. We have
>> >an image of a man dying of torture, to be an object on which we can
>> >focus our worship, and statues of his mother, for an extra focus. And
>> >as if that isn't enough, we worship a book that is supposed to have
>> >been written by God, that clearly isn't, and we try to redefine
>> >"inspire", to prove that God wrote it.
>> >
>> >Aren't the teachings enough to bring us close to God? Do we really have
>> >to worship other THINGS, to make that happen? Isn't there a Commandment
>> >against worshiping idols? Monotheism is against human nature. We need
>> >to be strong in it's precepts, to keep it pure. The Bible is NOT God.
>> >it is about God, as experienced by imperfect human beings, and should
>> >be venerated for the very real wisdom it contains, but NOT worshiped AS
>> >God, or be worshipped as his EXACT word. Because it can't be so.
>> >
>> >I suggest you study the history of the evolution (yes, that's right!)
>> >of the Bible, before you make proclamations about it's origins.
>> >Pay particular attention to the role that Saint Nicholas played in it's
>> >"creation".
>> >
>> >
>> >Take care,
>> >
>> >
>> >Y Not
>> >
>> >
>> >PS.
>> >You cannot prove anything external to the Bible, with the Bible.
>> >Well, except that it hurts when you hit someone over the head with it.
>> >Also, do you know what is meant by alpha and omega, and what those
>> >words really mean, and WHY they were chosen to illustrate the point?
>> >Even if you know, be careful how you answer, because it opens a door to
>> >something you might not want to deal with. But if you DO answer, do so
>> >with all parts of the question. Nothing less will be accepted.
>> >
>> >PPS to all:
>> >Hey guys, please no coaching. Let the person to whom I replied, answer
>> >of his own, if he chooses. This is for HIS benefit, not yours.
>>
>> The New Merriam-Webster Distionary
>> inspire
>> 1. INHALE
>> 2. to influence, move, or guide by divine or supernatural inspiration
>> 3. exert an animating, enlivening, or exalting influence upon
>> 4. AFFECT
>> 5. to communicate to an agent supernaturally:CREATE
>> 6. to bring about:INCITE
>> 7. to spread by indirect means
>>
>> There are no mistakes in the Bible. There are many interpretations.
>>
>> Jesus entered Bethany on Palm Sunday.
>> Jesus went to Bethany a village on the south-eastern slope of the
>> Mount of Olives, about 2 miles east of Jerusalem. Jerusalem is the
>> city, Bethany is a village of Jerusalem.
>> The evening of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, Jesus is in the city of
>> Jerusalem.
>>
>> NIV Interpretation
>> Matthew 21:1
>> As they approached Jerusalem and came to Bethphage on the Mount of
>> Olives, Jesus sent two disciples,(Palm Sunday)
>>
>> Mark 11:1
>> As they approached Jerusalem and came to Bethphage and Bethany at the
>> Mount of Olives, Jesus sent two of his disciples, (Palm Sunday)
>>
>> Luke 19:41
>> As he approached Jerusalem and saw the city, he wept over it. (After
>> Palm Sunday)
>>
>> John 12:12
>> The next day the great crowd that had come for the Feast heard that
>> Jesus was on his way to Jerusalem. (Palm Sunday)
>>
>> All other interpretations use different words to describe the events
>> but the same context.
>>
>> Catholicism is of the Roman Catholic church. It is dead to idolize
>> anything resembling the Mother Mary or Jesus Christ. The Catholics
>> worship Mother Mary as being a devine being of which is dead worship.
>> They proclaim that a man like the Pope or Priest can forgive sins, but
>> in reality they cannot. Only God can forgive sins through Jesus
>> Christ. We do not know what Jesus Christ looks like, so we worshp by
>> faith. We are not to worship an idol resembling Jesus Christ and we
>> are not to worship the cross which is a piece of wood. You worship
>> God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit by faith.
>>
>> John 20:29
>> Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed;
>> blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.
>>
>> Romans 1:22-23
>> Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the
>> glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and
>> birds and animals and reptiles.
>>
>> John 4:24
>> God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.
>>
>> Nicolas
>> THE VICTORY OF THE PEOPLE, A PROSELYTE OF ANTIOCH, ONE OF THE SEVEN
>> DEACONS (Acts 6:5).
>>
>> There is no other Saint Nicholas in the Bible or God's Word. If this
>> saint entered sainthood by the Roman Catholic church, he is just a
>> sinner like you and I.
>>
>
>I don't have too much time to address this right now, but here are some
>notes:
>
>You still don't understand "inspire", even though you read the
>dictionary.
>
>The person now known as Saint Nicholas, was a member of the "committee"
>that made the Bible mostly as it now is, somewhere at around 300AD I
>think, but I forget the date, and I don't feel like looking it up. This
>group chose which, among many religious works that existed at the time,
>in MANY versions, would be included in the Bible, and in what order. In
>effect, they MADE the Bible. And being a committee, they sort of got
>confused a little, and your attempt to reconcile the discrepancies that
>caused, won't change what's there.
>What's most interesting about this situation, and what Saint Nicholas
>is famous for in it, was his tie breaking (and possibly nose breaking)
>vote on the Divinity of Jesus. Until then, opinions had been divided on
>whether Jesus was divine, as God, or just a prophet and messiah. a son
>of God. He cast the mist influential vote, after he got out of jail, so
>from then on, Jesus was officially divine, at least with some people.
>Ah, this could be why Nicholas was later sainted. A reward? :-)
>By the way, he was also famous for being very generous. You know, like
>in gift giving? :-)
>
>You haven't answered the alpha and omega question. I'm still waiting.
>Do you know the Bible or NOT?
>
>More questions:
>In Genesis, what does the word "Nephalim" mean? The roman spelling is
>variable.
>What was the real name of Jesus? And why was it especially significant,
>and then caused quite a lot of disappointment?
>
>
>Y Not
>
>
> "Those who know, know who knows."
Alpha and Omega are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet
and are used in Revelation to describe God or Christ.
Revelation 1:8
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who
was and who is to come, the Almighty."
Revelation 1:17
When I say him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his
right hand on me and said: "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the
Last.
Revelation 21:6
He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the
Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink
without cost from the spring of the water of life.
Revelation 22:13
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning
and the End.
(Revelation 22:13). Thus they control all history and all humans of
all generations.
which Ezra and Nehemiah apply to persons of foreign extraction who
performed menial tasks in the Temple. Moses assigned Midianite
prisoners of war to the priests (32 servants; Numbers 31:28, 40) and
the Levites (320 servants; Numbers. 31:30, 47). Joshua forced the
Gibeonites to serve as woodcutters and water bearers for the sanctuary
(Joshua 9:27). The servants which David gave to the Levites were also
likely war prisoners (Ezra 8:20).
Representatives of the Nethinim returned from Exile with Zerubbabel in
538 B.C. (Ezra 2:43-54; Nehemiah 7:46-56). The lists of returnees
contain many foreign names suggesting their origin as prisoners of
war. Despite their foreign origin, the Nethinim appear to be accepted
as part of the people of Israel. They were prohibited from mixed
marriages with the people of the land (Nehemiah 10:28-30) and shared
in the responsibility for repair of the Jerusalem city walls (Nehemiah
3:26; contrast Ezra 4:1-3). The Nethinim resided in the Ophel district
of Jerusalem, likely near the water gate (Nehemiah 3:26), a site
conducive with their task as water bearers.
Christ, Christology "Christ" is the English rendering of the Greek
Christos, meaning "anointed." Messiah also translates the
corresponding Hebrew term mashiach, the anointed one.
response was guarded: not denying it, but distancing Himself from the
political and social connotations which a nationalist Judaism had
accepted as commonplace in the expected Deliverer. (See Mark 10:35-45;
Luke 24:19-21; Acts 1:6 for the evidence that even the disciples
entertained such a hope.) At the trial Jesus was interrogated on this
point. The balance of the evidence points in the direction that He
still maintained a reserve (Matthew 26:63, 64; Luke 22:67, 68), with
the same reluctance to be identified with a worldly messiah-king
charge of being a messianic claimant and a rival to the emperor in
Rome (Mark 15:26, 32). The Gospels make it clear that there was no
direct and supportable evidence that Jesus so claimed to be such a
figure. Instead, He consistently viewed His life and mission as
out of loyalty to the truth and is at length rewarded by being
songs (Isaiah 42:1-4; 49:5-7; 52:13-53:12). If this is the correct
and to His mission, it helps to explain how He looked confidently
beyond defeat and death to His vindication by God in the resurrection.
Whatever destiny of suffering and rejection by His people awaited Him,
to newness of life.
This is the literal sense of which can be applied to spiritual sense
of our soul or spirit today (newness of life).
the Roman political powers stood in direct and obvious contradiction
Deliverer of His people and a glorious Figure. The crux is seen in
Deuteronomy 21:23 which prescribed that anyone hanging on a tree died
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