In article <4a160c6c$0$32194$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, The Guardians
< Guardians@NewHope.com> wrote:
> -- I don't know if the last message was sent or not.. its weird again
> another one of my messages is not showing up.. but if it did please ignore
> this one...
>
> Did what?
>
> Asked for A Password?
>
> Come on did you not expect people to find the group.. You did not expect
> lurkers..
Everybody with a brain expects lurkers of every kind in every group. He
has a brain. Ergo...
> You act like these people are dumb or something. I have not heard anyone
> defend you.
Okay. Me. I will defend him. You did ask.
> Your giving them a false since of hope.. they should do what i said and they
> would never have a problem again.
False. To what you say he said.
> thats it.. who are you trying to protect them from.. the police.. come on.
Yes. Don't you think we should try to help people protect themselves?
Oh thats right you want them to be arrested don't you?
> Thats not going to work.. they have good software to crack passwords.. I
> mean the files do say things like 11yr. etc.. they are smarter then that..
> they have profiled us.. come on.
Thats true but we don't know how true it is. They don't tell us that
little thing.
> If they did what i said they will be fine..
No. There is no "fine" with internet security. Nothing is perfect.
Saying anybody will be "fine" with security here is a good way to make
smart people think you are full of lying bullshit.
> Personally I think your mad because they might leave, and you wont get your
> fix..
If you are talking about Doc you should know he doesn't download porn
just legal things. I'll say why down below.
> You must think these people are totally dumb. even when I wrote about my job
> and what I see you wrote, you may confuse them.. how old are they??
The way these posts look, you are the one who looks "dumb" to me. And
not all that pleasant either. Strangely ignorant too.
> Remember at one time you were the lurker. I don't know your age, but I have
> been around prob a lot longer then you, under many screen names.. Back in
> the day when this was not such a big deal.. And I never had anyone knocking
> at my door for internet or the other. So I would believe I know what I am
> doing. Get a Grip.. Your giving false security.. If I can find you.. They
> will..
Doc has been around the BL groups almost since their inception but
length of time around here is no guarantee of knowledge and
intelligence which you are helping to prove about yourself with your
posts. His advantage is he shares security info in private and public
with most of the smart and knowledgeable posters for years. I have been
a small part of that. The Lookout and KidHacker and Y Not and Cosmos
and others were major contributors. The security info Doc posted came
from recent meetings of some of these people and from transcripts of
the posts and emails of *real* experts. Its not just Docs "opinion" you
attack here but the expert opinions and evaluations of most of the most
knowledgeable expert posters of the past and present.
Anybody can find Doc. Hes not secret. His private info was exposed 3
years ago. The exposer posted his real name and address and where he
works. He had *good* security and it happened so he really knows how
vulnerable people who post here can be more than you can ever know. He
cares very much about us. We all know it. Except you.
> All they need is to be anonymous.. thats it..
This is very difficult to do completely (if you think not you are
fooling yourself) and almost impossible to do with autoposting which
the major posters need to do. I think you need to do some more learning
in this area before spouting off again. Case in point. If Astraweb gets
a complaint about your post and thinks its illegal they will cancel
your account and *then* try to contact you about it. If they haven't
canceled your account its because nobody complained and *not* because
of some fantasy anonymity you think you have.
Posting isn't just about technical things. Sometimes the nontechnical
personal things are more important to picture and movie posters. This
is where you have problems. Pay attention now!
POSTERS ONLY POST WHEN THEY FEEL GOOD ABOUT POSTING!
They post when this good feeling is more important to them than their
possible security problems (they are *well* aware of them) they have
doing it. Posters feel good about posting in groups where there are NO
arguments of *any* kind. When people like *you* start polluting the
groups they stop posting. They pay no attention to trolls. Its the few
ignorant sourpuss BLs like you who spoil it for everybody and make the
posters go away. Looks to me this could be your goal.
--
Grant
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