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Subject: Re: Ping J Duggan - Re Yenc Help
Date: 4 Aug 2005 02:37:02 -0500
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In article <%K6Ie.6514$jq.2224@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, Helpful Text
Poster <Posting@here.and.there.com> wrote:
> Some folks said:
>
> "I am using Outlook Express - not good huh?
>
> And I have Mastersplitter - which I have never tried with the Yenc
> extension - but it should work.
>
> Also, what is a better server than Outlook Express???
>
> Thanks so much for your fast reply :)
>
> please get back to me"
>
> First, ignore PM@cannon.bang - he probably means well, but he doesn't appear
> to know
> the difference between a server and a newsreader.
>
> The server is owned by your news provider, and has nothing to do with this.
> Your problem is twofold - first you are a bit confused about what OE means by
> "folder" - it is referring to it's internal message save folders, not file
> folders on your harddrive. The second part of your problem is that OE does
> not natively decode Yenc encoded files. The reason you can't see the files
> is that you have not decoded them. There are two ways to decode Yenc files
> with OE - the first is to get a copy of Ydec, a free program (the last time I
> checked), and save all messages encoded with Yenc as text files, then drop
> them on the Ydec icon - it will then decode them (yes, it's a hassle). The
> other is to get a copy of Yproxy - which unfortunately is no longer free.
> Once Yproxy is set up it automatically decodes all incoming Yenc files and
> translates them back to UUencode so OE can decode them.
>
> Lots of info on Yenc is available at www.yenc.org
> The Yproxy program is found at www.brawnylads.com
>
> For your use, getting a different newsreader is probably best. A couple of
> reccommendations:
>
> 1. Lots of people swear by XNews - it is free and does handle Yenc. I tried
> it - didn't like the user interface, but you might love it - lots of people
> do.
>
> 2. Forte Agent can handle Yenc - but only the paid version, so you'll either
> have to buy it or find a keygen or crack for it.
>
> 3. I like Grabit from shemes.com - it's free, has no problems with Yenc, and
> is great for grabbing large numbers of binaries. The only problem I have
> with it is that it cannot reply to messages in thread, so it's not a great
> choice if you intend to participate in protracted conversations.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
Your help message was well written, and with good accuracy.
BUT:
Yes, PM did make a mistake with server/OE, but telling someone to
ignore his help because of that one little slip, does everyone a
disservice, and seems to be a little too disrespectful to someone who
is trying to help.
PM has been helping other posters for years, and usually does know what
he talks about. No one is perfect, especially when it comes to typing
with old and problematic hands. I sure know that!
Each of us has something different to offer. We CAN help others without
disparaging the useful help of other helpful people, even if they make
some mistakes, or if we disagree with them. There are far too few
knowledgeable helpers as it is. It's unwise to discourage them from
doing good. Helping the helpers to be better, doesn't have to shame
them. At least not unnecessarily. :-/
No matter how much expert knowledge we have about a subject, we often
fail to realize that teaching/helping is an entirely separate skill.
Not all of us have this skill, or have it to the same degree. Add to
this that we all have different language skills and are from different
cultures, and you will see that we could easily have some communication
difficulties. We can minimize the unavoidable complications this
causes, by GOOD WILL.
Love, respect and understanding, are what we can use to resolve most of
the discord we see in these groups. If we want to.
I hope we do.
Take care,
Y Not
"We are as worthy of respect,
as that which we give to others."
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <PM@cannon.bang>
> Newsgroups: alt.fan.air
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Yenc help
>
>
> > First, what are you using as a server? if its OE then dump it quick
> > and get yourself something which is both reliable and YENC friendly.
> > What are you using as a joiner/splitter? I can post the JAS one for
> > you, or you can go to www,freebyte.com and downoad the free HJSplit,
> > which both splits and joins, and bioth of which are good and
> > worthwhile having. It is an idea to dl the files into their own
> > folder, and MY DOCUMENTS is a good idea for people not so conversant
> > with dling etc. When you have all the files in the same folder, by
> > using JAS of HJSplit, the film will join. With JAS, and assuming an
> > 000 file has been posted, it will tell you, before joining, the number
> > of files, and will also tell you if there are any files missing, in
> > whcih case you refresh your server and find them, or alternatively use
> > the pars. Ther are two types of pars, QuickPar, or FSRaid, which is
> > the one I use. Without the 000 file, you join as usual using the 001
> > file, but are not told how many files the vid contains. When you have
> > the files in MY DOCS or wherever, then all you need to do is click on
> > the 000 or 001 file and it will join into that folder. You will then
> > have the joined vid, and you can delete the individual files you
> > previously downloaded as the vid is completely joined. PM. NP.f35.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 15:43:49 GMT, "J Duggan"
> > <darthjohn@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >
> > >I have a splitter/joiner program - but I don't seem to be able to save
> the
> > >Yenc files to my harddrive. When I right click on the file it says copy
> to
> > >folder - but it ends up in a default folder in Outlook express - which
> for
> > >some reason I cant get to. Anyone else have this problem?
> > >
> > >please tell me how to resolve this :)
> > >
> > >thanks in advance
> > >
> > >boisrool
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <When your heart is weighed against the feather, may the feather be the
> heavier.>
>
> <PM@cannon.bang> wrote in message
> news:q1q1f1ljl094uvohjehgr0f64l4fpvi2ir@4ax.com...
> > First, what are you using as a server? if its OE then dump it quick
> > and get yourself something which is both reliable and YENC friendly.
> > What are you using as a joiner/splitter? I can post the JAS one for
> > you, or you can go to www,freebyte.com and downoad the free HJSplit,
> > which both splits and joins, and bioth of which are good and
> > worthwhile having. It is an idea to dl the files into their own
> > folder, and MY DOCUMENTS is a good idea for people not so conversant
> > with dling etc. When you have all the files in the same folder, by
> > using JAS of HJSplit, the film will join. With JAS, and assuming an
> > 000 file has been posted, it will tell you, before joining, the number
> > of files, and will also tell you if there are any files missing, in
> > whcih case you refresh your server and find them, or alternatively use
> > the pars. Ther are two types of pars, QuickPar, or FSRaid, which is
> > the one I use. Without the 000 file, you join as usual using the 001
> > file, but are not told how many files the vid contains. When you have
> > the files in MY DOCS or wherever, then all you need to do is click on
> > the 000 or 001 file and it will join into that folder. You will then
> > have the joined vid, and you can delete the individual files you
> > previously downloaded as the vid is completely joined. PM. NP.f35.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 15:43:49 GMT, "J Duggan"
> > <darthjohn@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >
> > >I have a splitter/joiner program - but I don't seem to be able to save
> the
> > >Yenc files to my harddrive. When I right click on the file it says copy
> to
> > >folder - but it ends up in a default folder in Outlook express - which
> for
> > >some reason I cant get to. Anyone else have this problem?
> > >
> > >please tell me how to resolve this :)
> > >
> > >thanks in advance
> > >
> > >boisrool
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <When your heart is weighed against the feather, may the feather be the
> heavier.>
>
>
>
>
>
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