Daedalus <jade@net-kooks.org> wrote in
news:1shv61lqq5hh8t6n7mmg1r5vcm7p2uslia@4ax.com:
> On 27 Apr 2005 17:12:52 GMT, Pope Frogbutt I <frog@buh.shit.org>,
> wrote:
>
>>"::Y-Not::" <$9+-Y-Not@here.com> wrote in
>>news:270420050356433730%$9+-Y-Not@here.com:
>>
>>> In article <d4mv7s$h0f$1@wilhelp.databasix.com>, Steve Leyland
>>> <steveREMOVEDOTINVALIDTOREPLY@meow.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ::Y-Not:: wrote:
>>>> : In article
>>>> : <1114556951.8a0947e1ce324b800436b9fd243422da@teranews>,
>>>> : FairPlayforAll <talkit@over.org> wrote:
>>>> :
>>>> :: In article <vu6t61h1eqso0gll5r52t1u66o5hs8p44o@4ax.com>,
>>>> :: jade@net- kooks.org wrote...
>>>> ::
>>>> :: Hey guys, the group wasn't even being used until Rolex came
>>>> :: along. You really ought to speak to Y-Not about this. Didn't he
>>>> :: make a deal and a truce with you guys the last time there was
>>>> :: some trouble? I think if you maybe talked things over with Y-Not
>>>> :: we could come to some arrangement and then just go our separate
>>>> :: peaceful ways. He knows quite a few important people who could
>>>> :: definitely back him up if push came to shove. I'm sure none of
>>>> :: you good folks wants to get in trouble with your ISP, right?
>>>> ::
>>>> :: --
>>>> :: FairPlayForAll
>>>> :
>>>> : Top posting can be SO Kornfusing.
>>>>
>>>> wow, for once I actually agree with a pedo.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your intelligent response. It deserves a useful reply.
>>>
>>> Not all people who post in "pedo" groups are "pedos". Well YOU are
>>> posting here, right? Please withhold your personal judgment, until
>>> you have more information.
>>>
>>>> : What I did before, with others, isn't in effect now. It never
>>>> : was, for THIS group. BLs were supposed to not post here,
>>>> : according to the agreement. I said this when Rolex started to
>>>> : post here.
>>>>
>>>> BL = pedophile, stop attempting to disguise your sickness.
>>>
>>> I'm a psychologist. Please leave the diagnosis to the professionals.
>>
>>You are not, you faker. You're a fucking retard who has claimed more
>>than once to have helped invent usenet, yet you know nothing at all
>>about it.
>>
>>>
>>>> : Some of the names I recognize, but their personalities have
>>>> : changed a little. There is still some amusement in them, though.
>>>>
>>>> so did george really kill himself last time after what I said?
>>>> I bet all the local parents of young boys in his area felt much
>>>> safer if he did.
>>>
>>> No, he returned to posting, with a different name. He's threatened
>>> to kill himself four times that I know of. He hasn't tried to
>>> actually do it. That is, if we are talking about the same George.
>>
>>Too fucking bad. You should all kill yourselves.
>>
>>>
>>>> : So they told the authorities about this group? Did they think LEA
>>>> : are STUPID? Of course LEA already knew about this newsgroup, and
>>>> : about all the others, and they DON'T appreciate frightened
>>>> : ninnies bothering them about it. Do you think our new visitors
>>>> : have ever wondered why this kind of thing has been allowed to
>>>> : continue all these years? LEA *WANTS* EVIDENCE to be posted!
>>>>
>>>> I and many others reported your little boy admiration pedo society
>>>> 4 years ago to the law, so yes, they are certainly watching.
>>>
>>> I've been monitoring these newsgroups for a little longer than that.
>>> I was asked to do it by some people who had received some reports of
>>> children posting porn. You weren't the first to do the reporting.
>>> Sorry to take away your credit. :-)
>>>
>>>> : When they do catch a molester, they
>>>> : want the him to have downloaded evidence on his computer. They
>>>> : don't take kindly to "people" who want to interfere with that.
>>>>
>>>> then go away to a properly labelled group instead of trying to hide
>>>> in an alt.fan group which was created for meowers.
>>>> if decent usenet browsers can see a clear label that there is child
>>>> porn in a group from its title, they will not go there.
>>>
>>> This is what I advised, and in the other group as well. As you see,
>>> it didn't happen. Some people have to learn the hard way. In this
>>> regard, are you any different? :-)
>>>
>>>> : Of course,
>>>> : BLs have to protect themselves with whatever security measures
>>>> : they can take (I help with that), so the result is that mostly
>>>> : it's real child abusers who actually get caught, by what they do
>>>> : outside of Usenet. We even help the LEA find and catch people who
>>>> : are actively harming children. LEA and BLs are satisfied with
>>>> : this compromise.
>>>>
>>>> BL = Boy Lover = pedophile.
>>>> do you really think the children in the images you post have not
>>>> been abused during the taking of those?
>>>
>>> Right. Some weren't, but some were. Unfortunately, what is done, is
>>> already done. If their past suffering can help keep other children
>>> safer, then I think it should. I know it's not the best solution,
>>> but sometimes compromises have to be made, for the greater good.
>>>
>>>> : There is another reason why this system is allowed to exist. No
>>>> : matter what some "people" might want, BLs aren't going to kill
>>>> : themselves. They exist. It's estimated that the average molester,
>>>> : molests over 50 children before he's caught. How do we keep them
>>>> : away from children? If they are fed enough porn, so they are so
>>>> : sexually expended from masturbating to it, that they don't go out
>>>> : and find new victims, children are going to be much safer. People
>>>> : who care about children, want to do whatever is PRACTICAL, to
>>>> : protect them from abuse.
>>>>
>>>> so your lame argument is that pedos masturbating to images of
>>>> abused children will somehow stop children being abused IRL?
>>>> I'd strongly argue to the contrary that such images would encourage
>>>> such behaviour.
>>>
>>> So it is in popular fiction. Ever watch that Law and Order Special
>>> Victims TV show? Do you think it's actually real?
>>> There is absolutely no evidence at all that, in adults, viewing
>>> pornography of any kind causes people to commit any crimes.
>>> Believe me, we WANT that to be a cause. It would be wonderful to be
>>> able to isolate a cause for this behavior, that we could control,
>>> but in actual fact, that all the research shows, it's actually the
>>> opposite that happens. Men who can satisfy themselves with images,
>>> are much less likely to harm children.
>>>
>>> We have a need to demonize people who have parts of themselves we
>>> dislike, to dislike all of the person, and deny they have any good
>>> human qualities. This isn't realistic. I use the term BL here,
>>> because "pedophile" isn't completely accurate for this particular
>>> population. Think about this. Everyone knows that harming a child is
>>> bad. VERY bad. But what does one do when one's sexual feelings and
>>> urges make them want to do that? They fight the curse. They KNOW
>>> that what they have urges to do, is bad. Sometimes they loose the
>>> fight to resist their urges, and harm a child. If they can use
>>> images to help distract themselves from actual children, to help
>>> them control their behavior they really WANT to control, I view this
>>> as a good thing, and to be supported, for the safety of the
>>> children. But lets not forget these poor souls who don't want to
>>> harm the children they are attracted to. They need personal help
>>> too. I try to give them that help, to test and increase their
>>> ability to exercise their self control, and to help them understand
>>> themselves. Usenet is the only place where they can even try to
>>> receive the psychological help they need. I do what I can to help
>>> them, with whatever has a realistic chance of success. Every BL I
>>> help to control himself, is worth at least 50 children who aren't
>>> going to be molested. I'm old, and not in the best health. Doing
>>> this work is a reason to live, so I do.
>>>
>>> I have a 17 year old BL I mentor, in real life. I collect boy Speedo
>>> pictures for him to use for his ah, nightly activities. These images
>>> are not against the law in most countries. He likes them very much,
>>> and so far, he has not molested anyone. I don't know what would have
>>> happened if he hadn't had the pictures I gave him. but from what
>>> he's told me, I think there would have been some molestations.
>>>
>>> Please remember, we can't "put away" people for their feelings and
>>> urges, but only after they commit a crime. Then it's too late for
>>> the victim. And then the victim gets even more damaged by the legal
>>> system. I would like to prevent this as much as possible.
>>
>>Damn, you're full of shit today, Y-Tard.
>>
>>>
>>>> : So what does all this mean?
>>>> : People who interfere with the BL groups, are actually interfering
>>>> : with the arrangements the LEA have made, and they WON'T be happy
>>>> : about that. And by causing posts to stop, they are actually
>>>> : hurting children. Not all BLs are child molesters. We want that
>>>> : to STAY that way. If BLs don't get their fix of porn, well, who
>>>> : wants to be responsible for what could happen? But guess who will
>>>> : get the heat for messing with the situation?
>>>>
>>>> then go to a clearly labelled group in alt.binaries.*
>>>> now you and your fellow partners in crime GET THE FUCK OUT of
>>>> alt.fan.aavfff.
>>>> do I look scared of any heat?
>>>
>>> Well, I don't know, what's your temp? :-)
>>> Which kind of thermometer should we use? In this group, better not
>>> bend over, if you look young and pretty.
>>> Well, I couldn't resist a little joke here. I hope it didn't upset
>>> anyone. It's so difficult to restrain my sense of humor. Self
>>> control? What's that? :-)
>>> Sometimes we need to lighten up a little, or in very unprofessional
>>> terms, go absolutely bonkers!
>>>
>>> I agree that the posters should leave. I warned them about this when
>>> they started posting here. I've actively supported this group,
>>> because of the relatively ah, inoffensive postings in it. I think it
>>> should continue, for people who don't want to see the hard core
>>> stuff. How about you give us a few days to get the move organized,
>>> and the new group selected? With the various time zones, and sleep
>>> and work schedules of the various posters, it may take a little
>>> while to do this. After all, you haven't used this group in years,
>>> and didn't notice what's been happening in it, for weeks. There
>>> doesn't seem to be much of a need for urgency here.
>>> Maybe we can do this nicely, if you all agree not to bother the new
>>> group, whatever it might be called.
>>>
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Why don't you tell them to leave alt.oyp.sworp, alt.fan.fog,
>>alt.fan.air and the other froups you slime are in too, Y-Tard? You
>>and your type are not wanted in any of them.
>>
>
> They are not wanted anywhere but in jail.
>
> Jade
Bubba likes pedos.
>
>>>
>>>> : As for MY part in all this, well, the fact that I'm mostly
>>>> : disliked by BLs and Trolls alike, should speak volumes. :-)
>>>> :
>>>> : This post is not crossposted.
>>>> :
>>>> :
>>>> : Y Not
>>>> :
>>>> :
>>>> ::: On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:19:22 GMT, "Rolex"
>>>> ::: <kidrolex@hushhush.com>, wrote:
>>>> :::
>>>> :::: Welcome: to the new version of AAVFFF
>>>> ::::
>>>> :::: Before: AAVFFF = ALT ALIEN VAMPIRES FLONK FLONK FLONK
>>>> :::: After: AAVFFF = AN ARTISTIC VISION FOR FAERIE FOLLOWERS
>>>> :::
>>>> ::: Wrong, kiddie diddler.
>>>> :::
>>>> ::::
>>>> :::: Please follow the new set of FAQ:
>>>> ::::
>>>> :::: This is a boylover (BL) group only. If you DO NOT like this
>>>> :::: idea then GET OUT. And go play somewhere else
>>>> :::
>>>> ::: Piss off, pedo.
>>>> :::
>>>> :::: No crossposting
>>>> :::
>>>> ::: Ooops. I accidentally crossposted. Sorry, 'boy lover'.
>>>> :::
>>>> :::: Please everyone: No fighting, arguing or bickering here,
>>>> :::: Bitch elsewhere
>>>> :::
>>>> ::: But here is where you scumbags hang out posting kiddie porn.
>>>> :::
>>>> :::: Try not to flood the group with your favorites. Limit the
>>>> :::: amount of posts to 30 max. Let the little guy post his.
>>>> :::: This gives a variety in the group for all to see and capture
>>>> :::: what he likes
>>>> ::::
>>>> ::::
>>>> :::: Please do post: Photos from the past. Art paintings.
>>>> :::: Beachware. Single poses favorable,
>>>> :::: Artistic nudity. Fantasy and
>>>> :::: dragon images, sport cars, foreign scenic views
>>>> ::::
>>>> :::
>>>> ::: I see you're adding non-pedo related suggestions to try and
>>>> ::: hide what you do here.
>>>> :::
>>>> ::::
>>>> :::: Please do not post: Anal or oral sex. Groups of
>>>> :::: bystanders such as street or beach scenes.
>>>> :::: No adults with young ones.
>>>> :::: Heavy
>>>> :::: sexual content
>>>> :::: No videos (there are other
>>>> :::: groups
>>>> :::: available)
>>>> :::
>>>> ::: ie - things you'd get arrested for.
>>>> :::
>>>> ::::
>>>> ::::
>>>> :::: Your cooperation is appreciated in following a very simple set
>>>> :::: of rules. Comments are always taken into consideration
>>>> ::::
>>>> :::: Thank you for Listening
>>>> :::: Rolex
>>>> :::
>>>> ::: This is an unmoderated group. It was not created for naked boy
>>>> ::: pics. I'll come here and do whatever I want, regardless of any
>>>> ::: stupid FAQ you've cobbled together to try and control it.
>>>> :::
>>>> ::: Have a nice day, tosser.
>>>> :::
>>>> ::: Jade
>>>
>
>
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