| Re: Vladik Death Hoax |
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| Chief Scratchum (scratchum@howmail.net) |
2009/11/22 07:24 |
news:pf8hf5d5cb31nnb8bmi4k5tpbdgbm0k8rp@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:52:23 -0700, joselite <josenowhere@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Azov Films announced the death of Vladik Shibanov in a car accident
>>three weeks ago. Further details and photos are on the site vladik.org
>>and on azovfilms.com.
>>
>>I was suspicious from the beginning that this was a hoax. I was first
>>made suspicious by the way too fluent English on the vladik.org site.
>>The writer claims to have known Vladik and knows details of his life
>>and death, as if he lives in Crimea. The English is that of a native
>>English speaker, very well written. Russian is spoken in Crimea, some
>>Ukranian, almost no one speaks English there. I doubt that anyone
>>living in Alushta in Crimea is capable of writing such English.
>>
>>The name Azov Films suggests that they are based in Russia or the
>>distribute films made all over the world to an English speaking
>>audience. I suspect the way too good English is being written by
>>someone in Toronto, not by anyone from Crimea. Azov Films continued
>>family and friends some time to mourn out respect.
>>
>> A new Mitsubishi Outlander in the US sells for over $30,000, the 2008
>>near this much. I suspect that a lot of the boys in these movies were
>>paid with pizza and ice cream. This car is way beyond the means of a
>>in America and Europe unless their wealthy parents buy it for them.
>>
>>What convinced me of the hoax was the photos posted on the
>>Azovfilms.com website. Look at the photo of the crash scene and read
>>the description of the crash. Vladik was traveling near 100 mph on a
>>wet road with bad tires and spun out of control. The photo of the
>>crash scene shows a concrete post (completely undamaged) and a bent
>>guardrail on the INSIDE of a curved road. This is impossible. A car
>>spinning out of control on a curve is pulled to the OUTSIDE of a curve
>>by centrifugal force. This force greatly increases as velocity
>>the outside of the curve. The concrete post, struck by a fairly good
>>size car at nearly 100mph, should show some damage. There is none. The
>>crash scene is fake.
>>
>>same sign in the rear window. The car has plastic draped over and
>>around it. The rear door and passenger side doors have been left
>>slightly ajar. There is absolutely no sign of any real damage to the
>>car. If this car had really been in an accident at very high speed,
>>the windows shattered, most or all of the tires blown out or missing,
>>the frame bent, the roof crushed. You see none of this. The rear
>>window is intact. Both passenger side tires are intact, and the car is
>>frame is not bent, the roof not crushed.
>>
>>passenger lying trapped in the car, enduring physical pain and the pain
>>nearly an hour to cut them out of the car using the Jaws of Life.
>>Jaws of Life are needed almost exclusively for one situation: a car
>>has flipped over onto its roof at very high speed or has rolled over
>>multiple times. This crushes the roof down into the passenger
>>compartment, making it impossible to open the doors and impossible to
>>extract the victims through the windows. Look at photo of the car
>>window intact. Anyone inside this car could easily have been extracted
>>in a few minutes through the passenger side, through the rear, or
>>through the windshield.
>>
>>No one died in this car. No one needed to be cut out using the Jaws of
>>Hoax.
>>
>>described and pictured on these websites. If Vladik is dead, perhaps
>>obvious a lot of people cared very much for this young man.
>>
>>My hunch is that Vladik is alive and well in Crimea. He may not even
>>all the beautiful things that have been written about him the past
>>
>>for a joke, or both. Vladik had a great sense of humor in his movies.
>>in a car accident to help sell a few more movies and make a little more
>>money, he probably laughed and then called all his friends on the phone
>>
> Interesting postulation, but the 1 picture of the car you posted
> appears to support, not refute, the story about wha happened. Firstly,
> look closel a the contour of the car, as shown. The passenger side has
> a slight, but noiceable curvature to it that didn't originate at the
> Mitsubishi plant. Secondly, look closely at the fron righ fender. It
> appears to be markedly shorter than stock, indicating twisting inward
> toward the radiator.Thirdly, look at the roofline towards the left
> side and you will see a protrusion above the driver's door, possibly
> made either by a hard impact driving the metal upward or by a
> mechanical device pushing the roof sheet metal upward to free a jammed
> door. Fourthly, look closely at the rear fascia.It also has a marked
> crvature toward the left side of the vehicle indcating a pulling
> motion by the frame and/or sheet metal of the left side being shifted
> forward and inward. Finally, looking at the plastic sheet draping the
> wreck, i is impossible to determine the degree of damage to the
> vehicle's glasswork othe than that the rear liftgate window appears to
> be still in place, although it is impossible to tell with any degree
> of certainty whether it is fully intact due to the transluscence of
> the plastic. Generally speaking, draping a sheet of plastc over a
> wreck serves 1 of 2 purposes: 1) to protect the interior components
> either for restoration should the vehicle be salvageable or 2) to
> conceal bloodstains and/or other foresnsic evidence by keping the
> "gawkers" at bay. This, however, is normally done with a colored
> plastic that one can not see through as this sort of plastic is
> generally of a thicker guage tha what was used here.All in all, my
> conclusion, based on what see i the posted image, is that the vehicle
> in question sustained a severe blow to the Driver's (left) side
> pushing the left-side sheet metal into the passenger compartment with
> accompanying stretching of the surrounding panels and probable bending
> of the left side of the frame/undercarriage. This impact resulted in
> the rear liftgate being sprung as the sheet metal and framework below
> it twisted to the left from the above-mentioned damage. At the front,
> the radiator cradle, grille and probably other, concealed components
> were also shifted to the left pulling the right fender sheet metal to
> the left, creating the visible, shorter appearance.
> If no-one died in this wreck, it would be a full-blown miracle as the
> damage listed above would be extensive enough to indicate that the
> left side of the vehicle contacted or was impacted by something very
> solid at a high velocity in order to cause the damage visible in this
> photo.
> And yes, I spent quite a few years doing bodywork estimates and
> determining the salvageability of wrecks like this one.
> Assuming this is, indeed the Outlander owned and driven by Vladik (the
> license plate is not visible for positive id) my educated guess is
> that he is, indeed, deceased.
Don't they have police reports, obituaries, etc. in Crimea?
I mean, what the hell. It shouldn't be that hard to find out if he's dead
or not.
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