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From: Katie <me@my-email.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.new-age
Subject: Re: HOS Project / email to & from Stephen Hill
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 16:22:53 -0700
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On Sun, 18 May 2014 19:32:19 -0500, Griffin <hosgriffin@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Apr 2014 17:26:04 -0500, Griffin <hosgriffin@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I want to create an Excel spreadsheet that has a list of all of the
>>Hearts of Space programs. Some of the columns could be:
>>Program Name, Program Number, Artist, Album, Track Title, etc...
>>(the details can be discussed here before starting)
>>
>>Obviously this would take one person a very long time. So I am asking
>>for volunteers. The more people working on this, the sooner it will be
>>done ;^)
>>
>>If you want to help with this, please send me an email at
>>hosgriffin at gmail dot com
>>
>>I will coordinate the effort, and post an updated spreadsheet weekly.
>>I will also send the completed list to Stephen Hill.
>>
>>If ten people add ten programs to the spreadsheet every week, then it
>>will be done in less than three months.
>>
>>
>>Recently I sent the following email to Stephen Hill:
>>Hello,
>> I have a recording of program 136 from many years ago, and during
>>the program you say that the title is "Floating." But on your website,
>>the title of program 136 is "Floating Whispers." Which one is correct?
>>I also have another recording of program 325, and during the program
>>you say that the title is "Floating Whispers", but on your website the
>>title of program 325 is "Floating Whispers 2."
>>
>>I've also noticed several other anomalies on your website. For
>>instance, the program details of number 2 - "Starmusic", which was
>>first broadcast on 5 Jan. 1983 lists the release year of some of the
>>albums used as being after 1983 - (1988, 1997, 1991.)
>>
>>Sorry to point these things out Stephen, because you really do amazing
>>work.
>>
>>Have you ever considered hiring someone to go thru your website and
>>fact check everything?
>>
>>Sincerely, (a HOS fan since 1987)
>>
>>Here is Stephen's reply:
>>Thanks for casting a precision eye on our program listings. You are
>>one of a small but appreciated group who've contacted us about details
>>like these. Since we aim to get things right 100%, we always respond
>>and fix any errors that are pointed out to us.
>>
>>I've passed your email on to Steve Davis, who is the keeper of our
>>Programs database. He will respond to you if he needs more
>>information; otherwise he'll fix whatever he can immediately.
>>
>>Please understand that we seldom update titles of shows when they are
>>rerun, but there have been a few cases where it's happened in 30 years
>>of broadcasting.
>>
>>On playlists, there's no point in listing out-of-print versions of an
>>album if there is a currently released version, so in these cases we
>>sometimes update the listings, which explains the later pub dates..
>>The goal is to give the listener current access information - we are
>>not a historical archive like Discogs.com that can list every
>>publication of a given album.
>>
>>Re your offer: we have a short list of People Who Care about these
>>things, and are always happy to have help in finding and fixing
>>errors. When we have an actual project, we'll contact you. There's one
>>coming up to verify the timing information (track start and end times)
>>prior to breaking the programs into their component tracks.
>>
>>Stay Tuned. Safe journey :: SH
>
>Here is a follow up email sent by Steve Davis:
>Thanks for your diligence with regard to details of the early shows.
>Now, as for the titles of early programs, remember that HOS grew out
>of a live 3-hour weekly broadcast, where there really wasn't a
>specific show title (just a general description handwritten on the box
>of a reel tape!). In the early days of syndication, NPR needed a
>unique identifier for each episode...and for that purpose, the program
>*number* is clearly more efficient and less ambiguous. I'm not
>implying that the title of the program is not important, but I think
>the titles of some of those early shows were a bit more "fluid," if
>you will.
>
>I went back to the original typewritten documents of that show from
>1987 and here's what I found: the official playlist & timings sheet
>given to NPR for that broadcast (i.e. the same data used for creating
>our website playlist) is titled "Floating Whispers." The voiceover
>script for the show has a heading of "FLOATING" but the text of the
>intro copy says "music for floating" (not in caps, more like a
>description than a title). I have a hunch that the title was settled
>on after the voiceovers were recorded and just before readying the
>and Michael Stearns' "Floating Whispers" fit the bill perfectly. Since
>the official playlist for NPR has that title, I'm inclined to leave
>things the way they are. If we change the title for "Floating
>Whispers," then we would also have to alter the title for "Floating
>Whispers 2," if only slightly. It gets rather complicated.
>
>Steve Davis
>Associate Producer
>HEARTS OF SPACE Radio Pgm.
Really fascinating. Thanks for sharing. ;)
Katie
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