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Stormin' Norman (norman@schwarzkopf.in.memorium) 2018/09/14 21:19

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On 14 Sep 2018 16:00:55 -0700, Miloch <Miloch_member@newsguy.com>
wrote:

>In article <25bopdhrj77helvrm56sme280bl2rt5jgs@4ax.com>, Stormin' Norman says...
>>
>>On 14 Sep 2018 09:26:16 -0700, Miloch <Miloch_member@newsguy.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>https://www.businessinsider.com/us-f-22s-faced-russias-su-35-over-alaska-at-a-major-disadvantage-2018-9
>>>
>>>*The US's and Russia's top fighter jets recently ran into each other in the

>>>favored.
>>
>>Do you have an opinion about this article Miloch?
>>
>>
>
>For me, the initial thrust of the article is that there's an advantage of being
>able to show what you're carrying using the old no-so-stealthy fighters...don't
>just turn all those F-35s over to the Natl Guard to get them out of inventory
>and save money to buy more of the one-size-fits-all F-22s.
>
>The Air Force lauds the F-22 but then they have to don't they?...with its cost
>over-runs and on-again-off again production runs, it's eating a large portion of
>their fighter budget while yet proving it's reliability...and it's outrageously
>expensive to operate!!
>
>https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/air-force-wont-build-new-f-22-raptors-heres-why-27282
>
>That and the idea of fighting at a distance was the rule in design without
>regard to the reality of close visual interception.
>
>I'm reminded of the F-4 Phantom which originally came without machine guns
>because U S Navy and Air Force didn't think there'd ever be any fighter/fighter
>encounters close enough to require machine guns...so why have them...just carry
>Sidewinders.
>
>Encounters with NVietnamese Migs changed all that.
>
>see
>https://www.quora.com/Why-didnt-the-F-4-Phantoms-in-Vietnam-perform-as-expected-with-its-missiles-and-had-to-go-back-to-using-guns-Didnt-the-missiles-work-well
>
>The services are stuck in the quagmire of thinking that ONLY thru advanced
>technology can America defend its borders...the problem is that the complexity
>of advanced technology seems to reduce reliability to the extend the percentage
>of fighters/bombers at the ready seems to be going down.
>
>...and don't get me started on Air Force pilot shortage...
>
>https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/article184984933.html
>
>

Thanks for your input.

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