On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:19:21 -0500, Cad Bounder <cad@bounders.club>
wrote:
>In article <7mlqucdve4jt3fvfa40ptnom7mh4oautk0@4ax.com>, SL
><SerpentLord@Evil.Incarn8> wrote:
>
>> As far as takedowns? Are there any moderators anymore,
>> anywhere? Doesn't matter. Even in the old days of .pubes, nearly
>> 100% of the takedown threats came too little too late. I saw most of
>> them.
>
>I think Oynk was talking about DMCA takedowns, which don't rely on
>moderators or propagating Usenet cancel messages (and cancels have been
>ignored by most servers for most of forever anyway). There are a
>number of studios that are aggressive in monitoring newsgroups and web
>sites and file-locker services to see whether some of their images have
>been posted. When they spot some (often based on file checksums, but
>I'm sure also on subject-header keywords and stuff like that), they
>send automated takedown requests to the hosting servers, in this case
>all of the major Usenet providers. If those requests are legitimate
>(that is, someone really does own the copyright and has a grievance
>under the stupid obsolete laws), the server admins are required to
>delete the files. It's mostly automated on both ends, requests and
>compliance, and the number of takedown requests is in the millions per
>day. I don't mean for newsgroups only, but in general, including web
>sites and search engines and stuff.
>
>There's an example of that happening at the moment on a porn web site
>where I'm keeping an eye on an ongoing thread to maybe pick up some new
>stuff. The studio S**th*rn Ch*rms is one of those aggressive ones that
>will issue takedown requests immediately, like within hours of
>something of theirs showing up somewhere. (That's why those SC
>newsgroups have been dead for years.) So there's a continuing
>whack-a-mole game going on to try to make the stuff available to
>downloaders via that site, and then SC has it deleted from the
>image-hosting services, and then someone re-ups it a few weeks later,
>etc. It never ends.
>
>Other studios that have historically been aggressive that way include
>AL$ and Perfect 10. A rare piece of good news is that Perfect 10 in
>the last few years has repeatedly lost a *major* court battle against
>Giganews (including appeals) and is now being forced to shut down,
>declare bankruptcy, and pay Giganews millions of dollars as punishment
>for P10 having been a sleazy copyright troll. However, the dickweasel
>lawyer who owns and operates P10 is illegally stonewalling and trying
>to hide his assets to avoid paying up, so Giganews is continuing to sue
>him.
>
><https://torrentfreak.com/usenet-provider-giganews-sues-perfect-10-
>for-fraud-demands-20m-170712/>
>
>So if anyone has collections of P10 images, post away, and Norman Zada
>can blow goats.
Thanks for the info, Cad.
I geuss I don't work the torrents(at all) and Usenet like the
rest of you.
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