On Mon, 01 Feb 2016 21:58:00 -0800, Sum Gai <sumgai@sumwhere.org>
wrote:
>Thanks so much for your response!
>
>It was very fascinating to learn something about the enigmatic Atman.
>You certainly overcame a lot. You could have woound up a redneck in
>Alabama! :o/
>
You have no idea how close to the truth this is.
>I hear what you're saying about everything being inter-related and
>inter-dependent. I have experienced this first-hand many times in my
>life, more so lately, and truly know it is true.
>
>I also believe that everything that happens is perfect, and this is
>also based on my experience, not somebody's teaching. Perhaps you
>have experienced this too. Even horrible things are for a purpose and
>contribute to the awakening of all beings.
>
I don't believe that it is perfect, but perhaps perfect in the
absolute sense in that all things will lead to enlightenment
eventually, or that we all are in the absolute "now", having the
"dream of the living", but not in the relative sense of day to day
experience. There I see to much hate, pain, and suffering. I just
think that everything "is as it is" and try to reframe from too much
judgment. I know that from my current perspective of being, relaying
upon a brain and six scenes, that I only have a very limited
perception, and do not have the ability to mentally form any real
meaningful conclusion to such questions as the perfection of
everything. Intuitively, someone may say it's perfect, but that
rarely follows in our relative day to day experience.
>I know what you mean by "a higher power being at work". For myself,
>it's not like some movie drama where some deity controls me, but
>things just seem to happen so naturally and effortlessly. I feel this
>especially when I speak with someone and some truth comes out that I
>almost feel "I" didn't speak, although it's within my ken.
>
This seems to happen a lot when we get in the "zone". When ego is
momentarily forgotten and we flow in the Tao, in the persent now. I
had it happen under many different circumstances. I really like how
Emerson described it in the Oversoul,
"I am constrained every moment to acknowledge a higher origin for
events than the will I call mine.
As with events, so is it with thoughts. When I watch that flowing
river, which, out of regions I see not, pours for a season its streams
into me, I see that I am a pensioner; not a cause, but a surprised
spectator of this ethereal water; that I desire and look up, and put
myself in the attitude of reception, but from some alien energy the
visions come. "
>It's too bad that you have had some opposition by small-minded people,
>but please don't let it bother you. Today I saw the following quote
>for the first time, and this post to you made me think of you and it:
>There are hundreds of paths up the mountain,
>all leading in the same direction,
>The only one wasting time is the one
>who runs around and around the mountain,
>telling everyone that his or her path is wrong.
>
>I hope you will have many more years of sharing the truth, both due to
>a long and healthy life, and also due to having a continuing method to
>do so. Years ago I had some publications of similar bent, with more
>than a half-million readers, so I know how it feels to contribute to
>people's awakening.
>
Even very recently I've had further issues. There are now bots
scanning the groups and if they hit upon anything the even sounds like
a copyrighted item they auto-generate a complaint. This is why
subject lines can not be very descriptive and may have intentional
misspelling or odd punctuation. It really is to the point that I may
switch to different areas or methods to share spiritual ideas rather
then continuing with the Usenet.
>I have a friend from another (unrelated) group who turned 100 a few
>months ago. His mind is still very sharp, and so I wish you that
>longevity. He did, coincidentally, stop posting in the group late
>last year because he made so much effort and it was not appreciated
>(although I did so). Since he stopped, the group is foundering, and
>may just die. I hope you won't get discouraged.
>
I really think that the Usenet we knew 10 years ago is almost dead.
Torrents have taken over, both public and member only sites. There
are also many other file sharing servers, but I can not speak in much
detail about them.
>There's another (unrelated) group I frequent, and a couple of posters
>put up a large number of posts every day, and rarely get acknowledged
>for it. It's really sad, but I tell you this so that you won't feel
>that you're the only one who is not acknowledged and appreciated for
>your posts, as I am sure many do appreciate them.
>
I don't think that its really acknowledgement or any thanks that is
desired by posters, but it's just good to know that there is someone
else out there. When the group is complete silence it could be easily
assumed that no one is there.
>So please keep up your efforts, although in an effortless way.
>
Yes, I will, but the effort may have to change with the changing
conditions. I'm also finding that I've already posted about every
major spiritual work that is still available from the last few
thousand years so finding new material is hard, and the need for new
material has diminished.
It's better to flow with the Tao rather than fight it. Floating with
the Tao can seem effortless, even when much work is done.
Thanks for the reply!
Atman
>Best, Sum
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