On 2019-07-15 07:26:42 +0000, dontno314 said:
> BillFrugge <pinback@darkstar.spc> wrote:
>> On 2019-07-15 00:27:54 +0000, dontno314 said:
>>
>>> BillFrugge <pinback@darkstar.spc> wrote:
>>>> On 2019-07-14 20:33:03 +0000, dontno314 said:
>>>>
>>>>> BillFrugge <pinback@darkstar.spc> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2019-07-14 02:43:13 +0000, dontno314 said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BillFrugge <pinback@darkstar.spc> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2019-07-13 20:52:55 +0000, dontno314 said:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BillFrugge,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the comments, some of them made me consider why I post.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have been on UseNet since the early days, back when we used tools
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> Archie, Veronica and Jughead. Mail came to us via Oak or Elm.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Over the years I have built a collection of material from UseNet and
>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>> sources, some provide by others upon request. To those people I am
>>>>>>>>> greatful.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have looked at what was our community as a pay it forward society,
>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> was based on others have the material we wanted / needed for our
>>>>>>>>> coilections,
>>>>>>>>> or to re-live a memory we had and perhaps wanted to re-capture. Hence,
>>>>>>>>> groups
>>>>>>>>> such as this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some of us have aquired collections over the decades that allow us
>>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> memories that we had, watching the flickering lights and over saturated
>>>>>>>>> colors
>>>>>>>>> of TV growing up. Or watching movies that were released before we were
>>>>>>>>> born
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> coming to love them. Both the movies and TV shows are considerably
>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>> written then most of the drivel that is currently being produced and
>>>>>>>>> aired.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As a former teacher I loved to share information and this platform
>>>>>>>>> served
>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>> purpose well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What TV shows today have the diamond like brilliance of Playhouse 90,
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>> anthology series of the 50s. Movies from the '30s with the subversive
>>>>>>>>> dialog
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the Marx brothers or The Thin Man films and Our Man Godfrey?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Subjects that we dare not address lest we fall under the finger
>>>>>>>>> pointing
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> political correctness?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It was / is these reasons that I post. To share experiences that are
>>>>>>>>> locked
>>>>>>>>> away from the past few generations and to perhaps expose them to a
>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>> viewpoint, one that is not muddled by accusations or it offends
>>>>>>>>> someone.
>>>>>>>>> Shows
>>>>>>>>> and movies that mean something rather then tentpoles that numb our
>>>>>>>>> senses
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> cover up writing that when measure against 12 Angry Men don't even come
>>>>>>>>> close.
>>>>>>>>> What was created to run as a 50-minute drama.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It boils down to context. Do TV shows and movies of the past offend
>>>>>>>>> someone,
>>>>>>>>> then perhaps they need to develope a thicker skin and view the TV show
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> film
>>>>>>>>> in the time frame it was created.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is why I post.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the ramble, blame it on the coffee.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pi.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BillFrugge <pinback@darkstar.spc> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-07-12 20:13:44 +0000, dontno314 said:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh-Boy asked for a series that I had and so I posted it for the
>>>>>>>>>>> request.
>>>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>>> done this several times of the past few months to see if the
>>>>>>>>>>> "politeness"
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> UseNet had improved. Obviously it has not.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So I am sorry to all that put in requests for old series and such,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>> closing shop again.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To those of you that do post you know what a pain it is to do it
>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> rars and pars, and the amount of time it takes. To those of you that
>>>>>>>>>>> do,
>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks. As to the rest, you want something, post something.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The real question is 'Why does anyone post?'
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I post occasionally, but I don't really know why I do it. Do we post
>>>>>>>>>> out of generosity? Maybe. Posting consumes the time it takes to get
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> files together, prep them, and the bandwidth needed to post.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are no rewards. Yes, there is the occasional 'thank you' for the
>>>>>>>>>> post. But that's become rather rare these days with bots and nzb
>>>>>>>>>> trackers. Without conversation, these names become just random bits
>>>>>>>>>> that we expect will respond to commands.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And then there are the problems that come from posting. The requests
>>>>>>>>>> for reposts. And the emails from your ISP.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is no requirement on anyone to post. You certainly don't owe it
>>>>>>>>>> to anyone. But I, for one, am grateful - even if I don't download what
>>>>>>>>>> is posted. Just having the option is amazing in my opinion, and for
>>>>>>>>>> that I will thank everyone that posts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> dontno314, I'm putting something together that you might find
>>>>>>>>>> interesting. Look for it in One Week.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, the coffee is good, no matter what it leads us to do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paying it forward is definitely the right phrase.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From the posters, I have found many shows that I wouldn't have noticed
>>>>>>>> otherwise. I probably wouldn't have even had a chance to see them! And
>>>>>>>> yes, I have accumulated a large, ever expanding library on my Plex
>>>>>>>> server - television on demand!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I share your view on today's fare. Most shows today are weakly written,
>>>>>>>> devoid of ideas, and poorly acted. And no one (in my opinion) can come
>>>>>>>> close to the genius of the Marx Brothers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried Plex, but I prefer Mezzmo as my DLNA server. I don't like a
>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> organize the meta data in my collection (60+ Tb) on external USB 3.0
>>>>>>> drives.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> use an Excel spreadsheet to keep track of contents. I have the drive
>>>>>>> divided
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> Movies (by decade), TV series (by decade) and documentaries.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The subjects have three columns in the sheet, so in a matter of seconds I
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> narrow down exactly the type of thing I want to watch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also have an AndroidTV box connected to my main screen that I can pop a
>>>>>>> drive
>>>>>>> into and watch with either VLC, or Kodi, or Mezzmo Player. I'm also
>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>> 1000BaseT with switches through my space so when I have guests for the
>>>>>>> weekend,
>>>>>>> if they want to watch something other then what I want, they can go for
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> without lag.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll have to take a look at Mezzmo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm fairly new to Plex, but I like it so far. I'd been looking at the
>>>>>> AppleTV so that I could watch some of my online library, but I finally
>>>>>> got one once I'd seen what Plex could do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't see the AppleTV listed as being supported by Mezzmo, but I do
>>>>>> see my old WDTV Live player and the Sony BDP player, so it'd be
>>>>>> interesting to see how that acts compared to Plex.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I main library is stored on off-line drives. What is loaded into Plex
>>>>>> is only copies of media that I want currently available. The
>>>>>> organization of televison shows compares to what I'd been using on my
>>>>>> WDTV player, but I'm not too sure about the movies. I can find a movie
>>>>>> in Plex just fine, either by title or genre, but managing the drive
>>>>>> folder itself can be rather messy; it doesn't care about a folder
>>>>>> structure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also use Excel to track everything in the offline library. I can
>>>>>> quickly find out which drive a particular show is on, and what format
>>>>>> it is available in. I've tried to include DVD copies, too, but it gets
>>>>>> to be a chore to maintain. I like your idea to keep track of the
>>>>>> decade, so I might add that column.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I wanted to be sure that you found 'One Week.' (I chose to
>>>>>> obscure the title for this posting.) Or did you find another copy
>>>>>> elsewhere?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to follow your lead and post at the bottom of the thread.
>>>>>
>>>>> You hit the nail on the head about Kodi and Plex. Neither care about
>>>>> drives
>>>>> or
>>>>> folder structure, which is fine if you have a massive NAS sub-system. As my
>>>>> media server evolved, I found that 1) the cost per Gb and the cost of Tb
>>>>> dropped drimatically over the years, 2) going with ANY closed system (such
>>>>> as a
>>>>> NAS) means that I am limited to the max abount of storage that unit may
>>>>> handle.
>>>>> While my approach (and yours) of using external USBs is literally
>>>>> unlimited.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another reason I went this route is ownership vs. licensing (and privacy).
>>>>> Under the terms of use, even if you "buy" a movie or TV series from Apple
>>>>> or
>>>>> Netflix or Apple, you don't actually own the perpetual "rights" to the
>>>>> intellectual property. Your going to see this coming up very quickly for
>>>>> people
>>>>> that "bought" Friends on Netflix. "The show will move to HBO Max when that
>>>>> deal
>>>>> expires at the start of 2020. WarnerMedia Entertainment Networks president
>>>>> Reilly strongly indicated back in February that Friends would be pulled
>>>>> from
>>>>> Netflix and moved to the streaming platform when he noted that "it's not a
>>>>> good
>>>>> model to share." "
>>>>>
>>>>> So what happens to those that have Friends in their catalogues? It's gone.
>>>>> If
>>>>> they want it, they will have to subscripe to HBO Max to get it and pay
>>>>> again
>>>>> for the privileged. And that's assuming that the service will be available
>>>>> on
>>>>> their devices. Having offline copies stops the DMCA bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason I use Mezzmo (or VLC) CAN work with folder / drive structures.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem with AppleTV is that Apples mindset is their eco-system
>>>>> deliberately doesn't play nice with others. This was part of Steve Jobs
>>>>> orginal
>>>>> design plan. All my family uses Apple which means as a Windows user, I
>>>>> can't
>>>>> speak to them natively. They either have to add Skype or I have to get an
>>>>> Apple. I solved this issue by running a Sierra VM on my system. And for my
>>>>> next
>>>>> build I will probably make a Hackintosh (After all, iOS is basically a
>>>>> Linux
>>>>> fork).Pi
>>>>>
>>>>> As to your issues:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/apple/apple-tv/8059/how-to-connect-your-apple-tv-to-a-dlna-server
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A lot of backflips to do something that industry standard.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, I did not request "Weeks" and I hope the person you posted it for will
>>>>> thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pi
>>>>>
>>>>> It is by Caffeine alone I set my mind
>>>>> in motion. It is by the beans of Java
>>>>> that thoughts aquire speed, the hands
>>>>> aquire shakes, the shakes become a
>>>>> warning. It is by caffeine alone I set
>>>>> my mind in motion.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, I thought you were looking for 7 Days awhile back. Oh well, it's
>>>> out there now. If someone wants the rest they'll have to ask.
>>>>
>>>> I learned my lesson with DRM long ago with Liquid Audio. I had a few
>>>> tracks with it, but you could only play them with their application.
>>>> Now that they are no longer around, neither are my tracks.
>>>>
>>>> My online library is composed mostly of movies and shows that came with
>>>> digital copies. The rest are programs that I've purchased through
>>>> Apple's store - and I've got the ability to remove the DRM from them. I
>>>> still prefer to have a physical copy whenever possible. (Which then
>>>> gets ripped and put on the hard drives for quick access.)
>>>>
>>>> Plex is running nicely. I can access my server either through an app or
>>>> a web browser, and it will stream videos in whatever format is needed
>>>> for the platform. It's even handling the x265 scheme that my WDTV
>>>> couldn't. Fortunately, I'm not putting many movies into it right now.
>>>>
>>>> I checked out Plex on the Sony BluRay player, but was not impressed.
>>>> The menu system was nothing more than a folder system, and the one
>>>> video I tried would not play. It just kept reporting that the player
>>>> could not handle that format and wouldn't let me exit.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the articles on connecting the AppleTV to a DLNA server. You
>>>> are right, that is a lot of backflips. I think I'll just pick up an
>>>> Android TV when I get to that point. (I'm not committed to any platform
>>>> - it's a tool.)
>>>>
>>>> I've gone the Hackintosh route before. It does work, but you have to
>>>> watch out that you don't do any updates. You can't use just any
>>>> hardware, either.
>>>
>>> I did request "7-days", but "One Week" is a Candian TV show as well.
>>> Sometimes
>>> being clever bites you!
>>>
>>> I think I did get your post, was it from off the air or the DVD release? If
>>> it
>>> was the DVD's would you please repost them?
>>>
>>> As to HackenTosh, if you haven't already look at this site:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com/2010/04/iboot-multibeast-install-mac-os-x-on.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pi
>>
>> Too clever. I didn't even stop to think if there was another show by
>> that name...
>>
>> They are from DVD. Looks like they're still available.
>>
>> tonymacx86 is THE place. I used to frequent osxlatitude forums since I
>> based my hackintoshes on some Dell laptops, and a lot of the files came
>> from tony.
>
>
> quality?
>
> I was looking through your posts, your more into Doctor Who then I am (though I
> have watched all of the new seasons and was a Tom Baker fan), I prefer Trek.
> And I enjoyed Tek-War which was a head of its time.
>
> The Junction and all of the spin offs from Mayberry does nothing for me. Its
> About Time was amusing as a first run, but it became dated too quickly.
>
> For TV shows:
>
> 80s
> Beauty and the Beast, Hill Street Blues, Jim Henson - The Storyteller, Lovejoy,
> Scarecrow and Mrs. King, Smiley's People, Spenser For Hire, The Equalizer, The
> New Adventures of Jonny Quest, etc
>
> 70s
> Baa Baa Black Sheep, Banacek, Battlestar Galactica, Buck Rogers in the 25th
> Century (I loved Erin Grey!), Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Columbo, Doomwatch,
> Ellery Queen, Kolchak- The Night Stalker, Probe-Search 1972, Questor Tapes,
> Rumpole Of The Bailey , The Persuaders, The Snoop Sisters, UFO and Space 1999,
> etc
>
> 60s
> 1962, Fireball XL5, Ironside, It Takes a Thief, My World And Welcome To It, The
> Man / Girl from U.N.C.L.E, The Prisoner, The Time Tunnel, etc.
> If you find something that might interest you, let me know. I may not have
> As for writers, Heinlein, Niven, Spider, Weber (before he started playing war
> games to do plot development and space battles, Varley, Janet Kagan (dead of
> Lime Disease), David R. Palmer (who should be MADE TO WRITE!).
>
> If want, ask, I probably have it or can get it from a friend. As to the others
> in the group, post and I will pay attention.
You've named a lot of the shows that I like. I know it's a small list
when you consider what is out there, but I couldn't think of anything
straight off that you missed.
Except maybe 'The Invisible Man' from 2000. The first season has been
out there on DVD, but they have never released the second season. Kind
of quirky, but I really enjoyed the show.
As for writers, My preference is the works of Isaac Asimov. But I've
also enjoyed reading a lot of the books by James P Hogan, Michael
Crichton, and Frank Herbert. And I can't overlook Andre Norton, Murray
Leinster, and Ursula K LeGuin.
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