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Subject: Re: ..could someone tell me whether these Criterion BDs are region-free?
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:01:02 -0500
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:28:13 +0100, UtNut <utnut@utternutter.org>
wrote:
>On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:42:55 -0500, Free Agent <freeagent@nospam.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Just starting to get into this myself now. I appreciate having JB's
>>complete untouched BD's like here and in the other group (and Bugzzy
>>was doing for awhile) even though I can't really collect them the way
>>I have with dvd's. Afterall, only 40 of these 50GB BD's will fill up
>>a 2T HDD. Considering the number of DVD's I have, there's no way to
>>be able to collect these BD's at the same rate with the current costs
>>of media.
>>
>
>If you still like to collect them, EHDD's are cheaper imho, say you
>could get 40 BD50's on a 2TB EHDD, this will cost around $130, (where
>I come from), 40 Blu-Ray media is around $425 (basic Verbatim). You
>will need a Blu-Ray burner obviously and player connected to your TV
>as well as a lot of patience and hope it will burn alright.
>
[Thought I had sent this already]
Sure if you're going to store untouched BD's, the cheapest way to
store them at this point is on HDD (I use internal 3.5's with a
usb/esata dock -- and just found a good deal on an Hitachi SATA 6 2T
at newegg for about $120 though since then have found them for under $
if you don't care about SATA6 or 7200 rpm).
My point was that even at about $2.50 apeice to store the BD's on HDD
I can't afford to collect them at the same rate I was with DVD at 20
cents. Obviously with BD50 at about $14 each, HDD is the cheapest way
to store them currently, and there is the flexibility to erase or
replace with better versions that inevitably will come along to
reclaim the space.
Though as was said further down, shrinking them to BD25, 9, or 5 makes
storing them more affordable at 15 cents to about $1 each or so for
those I don't have to have untouched or uncompressed.
>>But there are other ways to do it, like:
>>
>>1. Watch them at the 25 or 50GB size off the hdd, for awhile. and
>>then.
>>
>>2. For those I have to have, I can either reduce to 25GB BD single
>>layer at appx $1 US or
>>
>>3. Reduce them even further to "BD5" or "BD9" which are still
>>significantly high quality vs. SD dvd (1080p or even 720p's are much
>>nicer looking than even untouched DVD's). The h264's being mpeg4 can
>>be compressed without the blockies you get with mpeg2 compression
>>since the format is more foregiving in that regard.
>>
>>There is the free beta software BD Rebuilder, which will compress BD
>>to 25, 9, or 5GB with or without menus. Good thing came out of this
>>for me-- having tried it -- it makes it apparent I have to get a new
>>computer -- it took several days to Compress the single layer "City
>>Girl" to BD9 with my present cpu.
>>
>
>This is very interesting, something I have been looking for some time.
>
>http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/299579-How-to-shrink-a-Blu-ray-to-DVD-5-DVD-9-or-BD-25
>
>If these works the way they say it does my problems are over, as JB
>stated, 90% is still released on DVD, still worries me about the 10% I
>will have to store as BD25 or 50 or will be left out.
>
Though I've been wanting a new computer, I've been putting off getting
one until I had real good reason to do it, and now I do, It's just
that having run the City Girl recode to BD9, for some reason it's not
being recognized by PowerDVD (which hasn't been working right -- the
advisor locks up the computer and installing a new video driver hasn't
fixed it either)
So I got that Total Media theater 5 just mentioned (a serialed version
posted) but for some reason it's hanging when I load it and won't
finish loading--- might be a bad copy, With Nero 8 I have to find the
bluray plugin yet.
So am left with wasting a dvd9 (normally with a 5 I'd burn to an rw to
check and make sure it will play on my player if I'm in doubt, but
there are no dvd9 rw's. But now I just got a bluray burner and can
use a BD9 RE (rewritable) to test it if I can't get a software player
working before I install the burner.
Been busy trying to decide on which HDTV to keep and other electronic
components decisions.
>>For those who don't realize it, BD5 and BD9 are actually blurays
>>written to DVD5 and DVD9 respectively using either a DVD or BD
>>burner. They will not play on DVD players. They only play on BD
>>players or on the computer DVD drive. But the point is you don't need
>>a BD burner to create them and the media cost is dvd media cost
>>(though BD burners are now starting to drop under $100. and BD media
>>seems to be dropping in price also.
>>
>>4. Keep them on HDD.
>>
>>And keep in mind if the current usenet retentions continue, these
>>posts should still be available to burn to media when the price of
>>media drops to reasonable levels.
>>
>>Free Agent
>>
>>PS. I guess one indication BD media prices are starting to drop is
>>that DVD media prices have really dropped recently (now paying about
>>15 - 16 cents apiece for dvd5). I was starting to think about
>>storing files on HDD but with the drop in dvd5 prices, HDD storage is
>>still more expensive for me at the cheapest 2T drive still over $100
>
>It's all about storage, isn't it..and the quality the way we want to
>see flicks.
>Someday, perhaps not so distant, we will have our collections in the
>cloud, with unlimited storage space and streaming connection to our tv
>set.
>
>UtNut
I think that's the way they want things. The more I find out the
details about what's changed with blurays, the less I like it. e.g.
HDMI doesn't support closed captioning. -- so to play those ntsc dvd's
which only have the cc's and no subs (and there are quite a few of
them) on new BD players or DVD upscalers you have to maintain a
composite connection to switch to.
HDTV has time lag-- which effects sync and other things (implication
is it has to do with HDCP)
I can't find a recorder card for HDTV with built in tuners and ability
to record in h264 vs. mpeg2.
Can't find reasonably priced HD DVR's other than Tivo and if you
prepay the subscription for that, it's not so reasonably priced.
The BD players tell you they may need to be continually updated to be
able to play new discs that come along. And with the update process
they won't tell you the changes they are making, and you can't roll
back to a prior firmware if you're having problems with the new
firmware.
Many of the blurays I play interfere with the players playback
functions by having popups when you try to search etc. And haven't
been able to find software for BD's like DVD Remake for dvds that lets
you easily customize the disc the way you want it -- removing all of
that junk.
Can't find a bluray player that will play pal dvd's other than a much
more expensive region free modded playser. And almost all of the
players don't support reverse step or reverse slow (which used to be
in almost all dvd players). One of the few new players that
supposedly support that is PS3.
But Sony playstation3 which is supposed to be one of the best media
players doesn't support mkv or NTFS (so forget about playing blurays
from folders on that unless you want to use workarounds maintaining
connections to your computer and/or the net)
just to name a few things, am seeing that am not too happy about :)
Free Agent
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