On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 21:58:45 -0400, m2 <m2@somewhere.com> wrote:
>you said:
>>>30 Years in Darkness ? ... then moved on to ?
>
>meaning 30 more years under the thumb of my imaginary friend, my god
>delusion. i moved backwards, to the "religion" of my youth,
>atheism... my god was a reflection of my own mind, and i was always a
>stickler for the truth and a perfectionist, so i had a very tough god
>to follow... but he wasnt leading me anywhere... side note: as kids,
>we had a Ouija board, and once me and me brother were playing, and the
>board was answering some question and my brother starts laughing,
>saying that he had not been touching the thing, so i was doing all the
>movement, thus proving what a crock it was... i relate my following
>of god to something similar to that. end note.
>
>you said:
>>> What bought you out of it ?
>
>brought, not bought! ;$)
>
>I already did answer this, in a previous post, the one I had thought
>might have offended you-- perhaps you missed it! Since you didnt
>respond, that was why my paranoid mind assumed my words were
>offensive... so the words below may be offensive to many:
>
>Here is the answer again, in different words:
>
>i was raised methodist, which is a liberal christian faction that
>believes creationist theory is bollocks, and that the creation story
>of Adam and Eve can be understood symbolically, and thus liberal
>Christianity is compatible with modern science.
>
>how and why i became a "Jesus Freak", that's a long story in itself,
>better to skip, as this could be many pages... (look up the jesus
>movement of the late 1960's)
>
>anyhow, in 2008, as unhappy, tormented and frustrated as my life was,
>I could not abandon my faith, which I assumed was rock solid, based on
>trusting miracle testimonies, and such... i even read all the atheist
>books that came out, looking for someone to topple my belief set, but
>all the books did was attack christianity with much the same arguments
>i had with it myself, even Richard Dawkins book, the God Delusion, was
>useless to challenge my strange version of faith. (i didnt belong to
>any church for those 30 years, searching for like-minded believers,
>never found one)
>
>Then one night, as I studied Romans 8:19, (for the zillionth time)
>I noticed something I hadnt really considered before. The author,
>Paul, was saying that "decay" was a product of original sin. This
>startled me, because decay is just a chemical process, without which,
>life on earth could not exist. Digestion itself is a form of decay.
>Anyhow, in a flash, all sorts of connections came together in my mind,
>for example: Paul was a creationist! Something I had never actually
>thought about earnestly (hard to believe now)... And obviously, so
>was Jesus! because if original sin was not something real, that
>actually happened because the man Adam, who was created, not evolved,
>on a planet that was created good, and perfect, no decay or evil of
>any sort, etc, if Adam and Eve were just symbolic characters in a
>story, then Jesus's death on the cross to pay for that sin, didnt make
>any logical sense. Why would the Son of God need to die to fix a
>problem that never literally, actually happened, except in a
>mythological creation story, if it isnt the literal truth about how
>life on earth actually began... it is so blatant obvious now...
>
>It was a flash of great terror, suddenly seeing my faith collapse,
>feeling myself falling back into atheism... but what choice did i
>have? it was a no-brainer... I felt very sick and depressed to have
>wasted most of my life following imaginary ghosts, but i could not
>pretend to believe something that I could now clearly see was fraud.
>That is, either I had to abandon science, and believe that Adam and
>Eve were real people who brought sin into existence, or I had to
>abandon christianity completely, as a true faith. (and as for my
>trust in miracle stories, i was obviously the victim of rumors and
>fake news)
>
>footnote:
>
>This revelation has given me a whole new perspective on everything.
>Now I know why the right wing fundy Christians hate liberals and
>liberality so vehemently, because liberal christianity is more corrupt
>and evil than fundamentalist christianity. So the fundys may be crazy
>to believe in creationist theory and reject science, but at least they
>are being consistent with their bibles. The liberals, by pretending
>that Adam and Eve dont have to be understood literally, are perverting
>their own faith, quite literally, in fact... (do the math! connect
>the dots! i speak to any liberal christians reading this thread)
>
>All the mono-theist religions have this same fracture between fundy's
>and liberals. That is, Islam,Christinaity, and Judaism, in all their
>myriad versions, they are all based on the creation story of Adam and
>Eve, and are split into two groups that cannot be reconciled... about
>two-thirds of the planet is under this delusion.
>
> if only the liberals could realize this, and snap out of their god
>delusion, then they would not be so crippled politically. This is WHY
>the fundys have power over them, because they are less hypocritical
>(even if they are crazy)! this may not make sense, but if only i
>could find the right words... i could change the world!
>
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Wow ! That is one hell of a mix.
I was raised thinking I was a Christian, it wasn't until after I
became Atheist that I found out I was Never actually Christened, which
I was pleased to learn.
We were not a family that used to go to church on Sunday BUT I think
everybody my age would have probably had God/Jesus rammed down their
throats throughout school life... this just turned me against religion
in the end.
My ex-Wife was American and Very Christian, she refused to get Married
unless it was in a Church... I refused to get Married unless it was in
a registry office, I wasn't going to make myself a hypocrite. I won
the 'battle' in the end.
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