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From: drek <none@none.invalid>
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Subject: Re: "Secrets Of The Castle 3 of 5" >>>>>>>> Correction
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2015 22:49:56 -0800
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 13:25:13 -0500, Ribble
wrote:<k3mdaa19var11agphh8smno1tivbvolgg4@4ax.com>
>On Thu, 01 Jan 2015 20:56:00 -0800, drek <none@none.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 22:14:31 -0800, drek
>>wrote:<npbb9ahtp2oct4dv5jognk7pc5jmv320rl@4ax.com>
>>
>>>If by corrected you mean the way some versions of Powerpost can
>>>re-post individual articles, that shouldn't break the NZB. I believe
>>>re-posting an article uses the same Message-ID and it simply
>>>supersedes the original (it gets overwritten). Naturally if it doesn't
>>>exist it simply gets stored. In either case the MID is unchanged and
>>>the NZB is still valid.
>>>
>>Turns out the original MID does not get reused. I did some reading and
>>a few tests. I also asked in n.s.n. and Ralph Fox wrote a good summary
>>of supersedes with references:
>>
>>Re: How are supersedes and Message-ID being handled now?
>>news.software.nntp
>>M-ID: <6kabaa5v8r28uvmhcuucin2tieulk4gbh2@4ax.com>
>
>
>http://nntp.software.news.groups.com.ru/18761-Re_How_are_supersedes_and_MessageID_being_handled_now
>
Actually I was hoping for a little history lesson, it was pretty
common in that group at one time. I do remember around that time
HipCrime was wreaking havoc in the groups and it couldn't have had a
good effect on implementation of the function. :(
>This is going off on a tangent, as to what happens when an NZB is
>posted before the actual post, or corrections or reposts are later
>done.
>
<----snip---agreed>
>
>Newsreaders so not care about the MID and use the requested Subject
>line to determine the requested MID. Except NZB's, which ask for
>specific MIDs. An old NZB gets old message and a new (more recent)
>NZB gets the new message.
>
Here we go again but I believe the 2 ways to request an article are by
article # or Message-ID. (The subject just tags along for the ride.)
That NZBs are MID only is part of what makes them so useful because it
makes them good for many servers. The other part is with the right SW
they can take all the work out of dl/ing a post.
>As an example, Binsearch creates a new NZB using the most recent
>subject lines to list the most recent MIDs which are used by
>newsreaders to download the most recent file set.
>
>Not stating facts here, but above is likely close to what happens.
Looks good to me. Thanks again for pointing out the error. It's been
sitting there for years from something picked up in a discussion but
never followed up. It may have been something Chris considered while
writing the first version of PP2K.
http://www.nzbindex.nl/
http://www.nzbclub.com/
binsearch clone:
http://www.nzbking.com/
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