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From: drek <none@none.invalid>
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Subject: Re: "Secrets Of The Castle 3 of 5"
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 22:14:31 -0800
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 03:36:35 -0500, Ribble
wrote:<v9aa9ah1mcanhl1qc7hob30k27n1ms4tq5@4ax.com>
>On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 16:52:24 -0800, drek <none@none.invalid> wrote:
>>On 11 Dec 2014 17:43:58 GMT, macer8
>>wrote:<5489d7de$0$780$b1db1813$2411a48f@news.astraweb.com>
>>
>>>I'm also on Astraweb,
>>I'd be interested to know if macer8 ever resolved his difficulty.
>>What's missing in replies is how or IF NewsBinPro notifies users when
>>an archive dl is incomplete and unrepairable.
>
Thanks for the reply. That should cover macer8 or anyone else who only
has access to Astraweb as a single server.
1. NewsBin didn't 'automatically un-RAR' the post because so
many articles are missing 15% PAR2 isn't enough to repair it.
2. This video is apparently unavailable from Astraweb.
3, 15% is plenty AW is just grossly incomplete on this one.
Solution: A subscription to an additional server.
Suggestion, an unexpiring block account can do that without requiring
a commitment to a monthly fee. g00gle: "unexpiring block account"
I just wanted him to know it wasn't him, his SW, or the OP; in this
case it's Astraweb doing a bad job of peering articles.
>Somehow I decoded a good copy of Castle 3.
This answered my question of how. You have an excellent access plan.
When someone replies through the same server I use they were able to
get a post I couldn't, it's logical enough to think the problem is at
my end. (That leaves Spike, maybe AW just likes him best.)
> If Newsbin does not see
>enough PAR recovery files, the download remains in the download list
>until it is manually deleted or one way or another Newsbin has enough
>file blocks or recovery blocks to decode.
OK so there's no specific message or icon that informs a user. That
was a reason for his original question.
Altbinz doesn't show you either, but if it isn't unpacked the only
reason is there weren't enough pars to correct errors. Naturally
Quickpar is how I verified that.
>Most times when this
>happens I go to Binsearch for a recent NZB collection to download only
>what I need. Where "Recent NZB" means a new file set that includes
>any corrections made after the original post.
>
Yes. I do the same. Binsearch also notes if a post is missing articles
(incompletes) by Red totals in ( ).
Example: (1000/1020) = (#available/#total count)
I understand what you mean but in this specific case maybe not the
part about corrections. I'm trying to avoid a mile-long post but it's
an important detail.
JBinup uploaded to Tweaknews and it was 100% successful.
I *know* that because I got a "copy" of 100% of those articles from a
different server, Newshosting. That wouldn't be possible if part of
his upload had failed because Newshosting can't generate them.
They get "copies" just like everyone else in the world.
Even if he did repost part it wouldn't matter. See below.***
>With Newsbin, I have Astraweb, AstrawebUS, eu.news.astraweb as normal
>servers and "fill" servers. When none of those get the missing
>chunks, Newsbin drops down in priority to a free server in Netherlands
>and finally to APN which is a 20gb/month cheap fill server run by
>Forte Agent that usually has everything.
>
Well done. I come close with a 30 day retention freebie from my ISP,
and blocks from Astraweb and Usenet-News.The reason I don't bother
with the EU server is it only runs around 10% of the US server.
It would be unfair not to mention Astraweb's speed and uptime are very
good. At $0.05 US per GB I don't know of a better price anywhere and
~2100 days is a long reach.
>I suspect Mercer8 was still learning Newsbin, but the Castle 3 NZB
>that I posted was from astraweb and recent and should have worked.
>
Yes, it should've. I take it the NZB was generated by Newsbin with
headers (an overview) from Astraweb. That's fine if you need a full
list of articles for the post, ironically it's also THE big problem
with Astraweb.
You get a list from the overview server that says, "Yes we have what
you want." You take that list to the fileserver and it says, "Go fish,
we don't have what you want.". See what I mean?
If the overview were accurate to begin with, you'd see the post was
too broken to bother with.
>Many times a fileset starts by posting an nzb before the regular files
>are posted. So if the regular files are bad and later corrected, the
>original nzb is worthless. A "Recent NZB" usually works.
>
***
I see the logic and people will do what works for them. For the record
things aren't always what they seem.
Yes some of the PowerPost programs will generate an NZB to include
along with the post. That means it must list the Message-IDs it
generates before uploading them.
If any of those articles ultimately fail for any reason, that NZB will
not accurately reflect what actually exists on a server. In that case
an NZB from Binsearch or another indexer can be more accurate.
If by corrected you mean the way some versions of Powerpost can
re-post individual articles, that shouldn't break the NZB. I believe
re-posting an article uses the same Message-ID and it simply
supersedes the original (it gets overwritten). Naturally if it doesn't
exist it simply gets stored. In either case the MID is unchanged and
the NZB is still valid.
One of the major objectives of the original PowerPost 2000 was to
include the ability to do this. It saves re-posting entire multi-part
binaries and back in dial-up days that was a real boon. I believe A&A
and Camelpost still have that capability.
My apologies for not including a reference I'll run one down if you're
interested. It would be easy enough for anyone to verify on a post to
their own server.
>Newsbin has a bad track record missing headers, at least on my
>computer, but Forte Agent does get all the headers and is useful to
>see what headers actually exist.
>
I will bear that in mind. It would be interesting to learn more about
it in another place or another time. I understand Agent still suffers
the occasional tic from hash collisions though. This causes it to tuck
things under an entirely unrelated thread for no 'apparent' reason.
>Newsbin also has a bad track record reading messages, at least on my
>computer, but Forte Agent will read everythng, even my own posts that
>Newsbin ignores because they are too short going in and out on
>astraweb.
>
Horses for courses. Agent is arguably without peer as a text reader
and Newsbin was created specifically as a binary getter, by heathens.*
>Newsbin is great otherwise, especially with header management. Forte
>Agent looks like a disaster with all the headers and I have about five
>years experience using Forte Agent.
You must have a little experience reading too, your comprehension is
way above average. Thank you for helping eliminate the confusion.
If the header disaster is from Agent not combining multi-parts into a
single line there's a fix. At least in older versions it has to do
with requiring a filename in the subject but I'm not sure how that's
configured in your version. If I get time I will look it up for you.
As ever Forte Agent has the best support on the planet. Maybe you
already know about the group.
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent
Thanks for the huge contribution you make to documentaries!
*LMAO
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"You should always download the smallest PAR2 file first (the one
called "filename.ext.par2") since you can use this to verify the other
files that you download."
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