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>On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:56:40 -0500, bobbin <spin@homebody.net.SPAM.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>>>>Message-ID: <eqc4i4tq4lv5cssdiifegi5r5ifsalks25@4ax.com>
>>>>>This shows what a backwoods inbread you are and how big your genetic defact is.
>>>>>
>>>>>You pretent to be so good then tell me how i could be here in 2004 and do you FUITH
>>>>>think i have 2 ip adresses?
>>>>>
>>>>>Drop dead asshole, now i am sure the shit you post is fishy and other people who also
>>>>>warned about your posts are right.
>>>>>
>>>>>Double PLONK you agent orange bread.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>What is FUITH?
>>>>
>>>>Looking at the comments you post.
>>>>Looking at the posters you post them too.
>>>>FUITH has to be "Freaking Undone In The Hoop".
>>>>You read as being "undone" in the head from the menial
>>>>ways you strive to undo good work in Group.
>>>>
>>>>You abuse posters in English you do not understand
>>>>or make sense of.
>>>>You insult posters who do hard work in posting helps.
>>>>You post links to designs which are purely another's
>>>>trash stash.
>>>>Explain then how you are helping anyone but your own
>>>>sick self?
>>>>
>>>>I am new to Group, not new to Usenet. I can sure say
>>>>you would have been "run out of town" in a binary
>>>>Group. Perhaps there is the cause for your FUITH?
>>>>You need a vacation.
>>>>
>>>>hth
>>Message-ID: <g4s5i4la0vg4ag8148k41jfnvc6a31puq6@4ax.com>
>>>You know Bobbin, i do not need a vacation, the person i was talking to very well
>>>knows the meaning of the abbreviation.
>>>
>>>I know i'm the black sheep here and i don't care less.
>>>As you know there are more ways to skinn a cat but those people telling that their
>>>way is the only way to do it right and other people taking their word as was it
>>>gospel is what i am telling over and over again is not right.
>>>It's like in the militairy, if the jackass higher in rank told you grass is red then
>>>grass is red no discussion. Period.
>>>When someone is posting a program over here while you can download it for free from
>>>the official website then there is a bell going off in my head and i ask myself "why
>>>does he want me to download his file" I question those things and that is why those
>>>rH apostles agitate so hard against me.
>>>The harder they scream the more i am confinced they are telling lies because they
>>>void discussion about the subject.
>>>Again i do not care and i also do not try to insult posters, i post those messages
>>>once in a while to make people who download ( those guru's call them a leech ...
>>>nasty anymals yuck!!! ) aware of those things and i hope they do their homework as
>>>those guru's always say ( DO YOUR HOMEWORK ), well i did and i do not trust them
>>>period, and examine what they are preaching.
>>>Digging up a message from 2004 wich is never posted by me and telling people it was
>>>send by me makes it clear what kind of people they are.
>>>What idiot does keep messages of this group that long than only to misuse them
>>>against people. Nobody is able to check if it is true what they post and they think
>>>they have huge balls by posting things like that.
>>>
>>>You are new, and you think they would have me flamed out of a other group in the same
>>>situation? Well do some googling on the subject SHARKPOST how the programmer of this
>>>nice pice of software misused the open cource code and started selling the program.
>>>Now it seems to be freeware again but the program is still suspicious to me and while
>>>uploading files with it it just as well can send information to a other place
>>>recording your ip address and recording what you are uploading to what place.
>>>Sharkpost is called Narcpost by many people who know about software and because of
>>>that i do not touch it.
>>>What you mean by posting links to designs wich are a trash stach i do not know, maybe
>>>some day i will see the light and understand what you say.
>>>
>>>And because nobody here is justifying himself over here i also do not feel the need
>>>to do so and explain why i do things the way i do.
>>
>>Poor poor man, I am pulled between great pity and extreme embarrassment in having
>>elicited quite the tirade from a poster when I was only making observation of the words
>>you wrote, everywhere.
>>You did write them and you did post your rant showing a confused mixture of paranoia
>>with a raging envy for the ability of another to see quickly a condition you find
>>impossible to understand.
>>
>>I have followed your lead in making a new topic with the subject line.
>>As rude and unprofessional as that method of posting is I notice many use the way in
>>Group.
>>I copy you to show you there is no set method to "skinn a cat", it is just good manners
>>to follow actions on Usenet that have been proven over time to work best. The Group
>>approves of the use of subject to do many things subject was not designed for, so, I am
>>not beginning to argue niceties with Group, or you.
>>
>>To what you posted I say.
>>You are quite wrong, Usenet is not "like in the militairy", quite the opposite in fact,
>>"organized anarchy" is maybe the description you seek.
>>Then, there are many things you have wrong, in your head. I would write what I know
>>to help you, but seriously, you could be well placed to take some professional advice
>>without risk of making yourself very ill.
>>
>> "why does he want me to download his file"
>>You vent against "rH apostles", why I have no idea but I can tell you I have seen those
>>files posted some time ago and again just recently. The work is no different to any
>>condensed FAQ you can find mounted on Internet sites and used as regular postings
>>to Usenet. The files are quite well put together, being Group specific. And in
>>downloading some of the posts here I am beginning to understand why that is. User
>>behavior in the Group is quite different to any Group I have ever found.
>>From the way you attempt to hide your postings I can see you are in need of some tips
>>within those files. You are one who is different, so when you have someone posting as
>>much as you do those being indolent will follow your method, thinking the less work
>>done the easier it is for themselves.
>>Regrettably, for all your effort, you really get it wrong many times over. I see you being
>>asked to correct your posting style.I do not see you answer those requests or change
>>your style. Is this your gripe, the fact you are being asked to correct your style to help
>>every other user?
>>Your wrong does not force anyone to be wrong also, no matter how often you post to
>>show "more ways to skinn a cat". It is known there is more than one way, that is the
>>nature of Usenet Groups. Unfortunately for you your way produces a "skinn" which is
>>riddled with holes.
>>You could do well to reconsider why it is you post the way you do, wherever you
>>post binary. Use those parts of the tutorial which will help you, or, where you believe
>>you have a better method, post the tutorial you would build and let the Group test it.
>>
>>Sure you can ask "why does he want me to download his file" but until you have
>>an alternative or an improvement it is not your place to impede the education of those
>>who are as different as you and do not wish to be.
>>
>>
>>"i also do not try to insult posters"
>>I really do not believe you are so naive to hold that opinion of your work.
>>You are an adult, are you not?
>>You are in control of what you do?
>>I would say to you, only the cerebrally challenged would take comment you post
>>as being a help. Your English is no excuse for the nastiness you direct at those
>>trying to help other users. I suggest you consider saying nothing where you do not
>>fully understand yourself, or at least ask the poster what they mean before ranting
>>against their work.
>>One example that made me wince was your response to someone who is here
>>every time I login.
>>***********
>>Newsgroups: alt.binaries.crafts.pictures
>>Subject: Re: Herb is this oesd post ok?
>>Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 18:45:09 +0100
>>Organization: De vrijbuiters
>>Message-ID: <g78eh453t1fcgcrda9mav45a7npta5vl6l@4ax.com>
>>
>>"My Agent has no problem what so ever, see attachment. and i like it 73 headers
>>for a 175 KB post. Parts should be 1K then it even becomes more interesting.
>>***********
>>The OP knows better than you do, and was helping the requestor. But in you come
>>with your nasty slap to the thread. You respond in that manner more often than not.
>>Insult or aggression, posts from your trumpeting of your problem help nobody.
>>The requestor went away to post more files incorrectly. You helped that outcome.
>>
>>"What idiot does keep messages of this group that long"
>>All binary groups were dumped by Google, there is no keeping of information posts
>>which could help with questions asked time and time again. The picto groups
>>have the same problem as is very obvious here, very few are keeping important
>>information posts. I have seen the same request for help with "null files" pop up
>>repeatedly, as just a single example.
>>Users must keep their own records of information.
>>You brand the poster of your information "idiot". What qualification have you to do so?
>>The user has gone to the trouble of archiving posts, keeping them forever, maybe,
>>Just what is idiotic about accurately storing repetitive tips or acts of misinformation?
>>
>>"Nobody is able to check if it is true what they post"
>>The OP posted the User-ID, the Message-ID and the Host-ID.
>>All of that information is linked and can be verified with the Host the post was made
>>from.
>>The OP posted correctly, you object to the information being posted.
>>This tells me there is truth in the point being made.
>>My guess is the OP did exactly that which you claim you do, in being different.
>>" i post those messages once in a while to make people// aware"
>>How is it fine in your mind for you to post scurrilous information and not fine for the
>>OP to post what appears to be accurate information, given your performance?
>>
>>"Well do some googling on the subject SHARKPOST"
>>The raging against Sharkpost and the cloning of Powerpost is just sheer ignorance
>>gone horribly off kilter. In a word your FUITH applies very well to the misinformation
>>you are posting. Freaking Undone In The Hoop!
>>Sharkpost is now carried by a number of sites, something that may not have been
>>available when the tutorials posted were built.
>>http://download.acasa.ro/Windows/Internet/Bloguri-browsere-offline/download_SharkPost-.html
>>http://www.clubic.com/telecharger-fiche194078-sharkpost.html
>>http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/News-Newsgroups-Blog-Tools/SharkPost.shtml
>>http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/141350
>>http://www.nntp.it/cultura-classica/867522-interessantissima-possibilit-di-google.html
>>
>>All these users are wrong and you are right, right?
>>
>>Both SP and PP are the choice of binary posters in the picto and dvd groups.
>>Get the working version of PP and the tool is fine. Many versions of PP corrupt
>>posts for binary news software, rendering PP a nuisance, and the poster using
>>the version of PP catching flames for their effort.
>>All of this information has been tested and is well known in binary groups.
>>The version of PP included with the tutorials works but is not the complete answer as
>>posters have found throughout Usenet. There is maybe why SP is part of that tutorial.
>>If you have used PP you will see quickly just how more flexible SP is to use.
>>SP does not corrupt posts for binary news software.
>>Your comments on SP are plainly the rant of someone who has an agenda of their own,
>>an agenda that is not healthy for any Group.
>>
>>For the other small things?
>>You are posting links using NZB to posts that clearly are put to Usenet for anything else
>>but sharing. NZB itself can be a destructive tool for both the user's system and the
>>Group when used in the manner you post. The only intent I can figure is a desire to
>>fill volumes of catalogue partitions with trash. Trash being the quantity of system files,
>>URL shortcuts, desktop.ini files, browser files, catalogue files, thumbnail design files,
>>zips archived within RAR, duplicates hidden in sub-folders, the list is enormous!
>>One post contained a 6MB thumbs.db file, another had Jpegs of 2MB 4MB 6 MB each!.
>>One archive alone was 38MB, when sorted the file content that could be used to sew
>>with was less than 3MB!
>>Do those who are "different" in posting here not have some compassion for the waste,
>>of time and bandwidth for the sewer?
>>None of this can be seen with NZB. Where posts of such nature exist they should be
>>examined before downloading completely. There is the prime reason why NZB cannot
>>be trusted, the other is that NZB can be configured so as to hash a computer up.
>>You post spurious warnings on a virus or a trojan yet you urge users to use NZB, NZB
>>files that have no basis in trust, as a download quickly shows.
>>I hope this answers your question "What you mean by posting links to designs wich
>>are a trash stach".
>>
>>You might say how it is the poster is "he", how can you know?
>>Yes, you are different, well, different to me. I do not *know* the gender of the
>>poster and I have been watching quite a while.
>>Is anyone who questions you a "he" maybe?
>>To help you, it is not polite to use "he" or "she" when addressing a poster.
>>You could use (s)he I suppose but it is safely polite to use "OP" or "the poster".
>>And on your understanding of " leech ...nasty anymals yuck!!!", you are also very
>>wrong.
>>Leeching is common Usenet language use for downloading. Users are referred to
>>as a leech as that is what they are doing, they are leeching the files they want
>>from the many available. You are familiar with "leeching of soil and rock" resulting
>>in pure chemical? There is the context "leech" is used in.
>>As a matter of normal use I would have used "leech" in this post but in
>>deference to your misunderstanding, with you being different, I politely used "User".
>>It is these small accommodations that help sane civil conversation to prevail, in a Group.
>>
>>If I am alone in seeing the bells go off in your head driving the rush to justify yourself
>>then I will accept that singular opinion as my property alone. I am new to Group, this
>>is true, yet I am well equipped to judge you as a peer, arriving at those conclusions
>>which read, "you would be flamed off another Group for what you do".
>>You might well take up my opening suggestion and seek help, professional help.
>>I am certain the prime recommendation at that source would be "take a vacation".
>>
>>hth
>
>Thank you for your wise words, i will save this message as a text file and read it
>over once in a while.
>
>In regard to the file of 73 parts and posts that are many MB to large because things
>not importand are included in them i only want to say that the remark on the 73 part
>post was ment to draw attention to the fact that there are people who have a internet
>subscription and pay for a certain amount of data per month. If they exceed this
>amount they have to pay a lot of money more or they go back to a speed slower than
>dailup and that is it is not good posting to break up a post in so many small parts
>because the headers always are downloaded and a header also is data.
>So to throw oil on the fire i told it would be nice to split a post in as many as
>possible small parts instead of telling it would be better to find out what the max
>size of a part can be accapted by all servers and then split posts in parts that
>size, i guess i'm not very good in telling gallows humour.
>Did anybody of the helping crowd who did redo the old FAQ of this group ever pay any
>attention to that? I am 100% sure they did not, people only comment on so called OBZ
>files wich are rejected by many servers.
>
>And again i feel perfectly fine even if you think i need help, i do not think i need
>any and please do not call me poor man because i'm not male.
>
>Have a nice day.
Thank you for your post, ES. It is quite possible you are misunderstood just as it is also
possible you have misunderstood others. Written English does not always convey the
thinking behind the written text. Add to this the subtleties of expression , "gallows humour", or
"black humor" as I know it, various uses of "dry wit" and you can have a real bonfire
in any Group. Where help topics are discussed it is safest to "play it straight".
The debate around "number of headers" is an old argument belonging to the past when
Internet providers carried the majority of binary posts. Today with a shift to news farms
and dedicated providers that anomaly is just not valid any longer. What remains unchanged
is the Internet protocol (RFC) to have articles posted in segments of no more than 10000 lines.
Where the protocol is followed by posting software the posts provide the best conditions for
retention on servers. Segments greater than the size allowed by server configuration will
be rejected by the server.
Communicating the technicalities to posters is not universally possible without stating a
maximum value in kilobytes. Recent trends have pushed the number to 1megabyte but the
accepted standard of 750kilobytes or 10000 lines remains the safest option. The ideal situation
is to use an even lower number, particularly when posting large volumes using yEnc.
Reading the helps posted I cannot argue against the numbers used. Maybe the author has
knowledge specific to this Group, setting the numbers for what works best for the users?
The tutorials are using screen images to direct the reader so it is not possible to say what
numbers are used. However having used the Agent information myself I know the Agent.ini file
supplied has the values preset. This would save a lot of work for a beginner but I personally
prefer the higher number of 500kilobytes. Adjustment is not difficult once the program is started.
The author addresses this in the text of the "ABCP_miNi_FAQ_Rev777.pdf" file and hints
at the line sizes being set in the "<*.ini> files " reference in the "ReadME.pdf".
The extracts follow.
ABCP_miNi_FAQ_Rev777.pdf
Ensure your posting software is set to split posted files at approximately 350KB. Posting Zip files (or
as properly configured servers have OBZ filters set to delete non-conforming posts.
Regardless of what is read from links supplied anywhere, the split your posting tool should be set to
create is 5000 - 8000 lines for UUEncoded posts and 1250 - 2400 lines for yEnc posts. Read the help
file for your posting tool to set these factors as a permanent setting. There are tutorials available on
all these operations. Posting a REQ for help on the topics will generate an upload of a tutorial.
ReadME.pdf
The Posting Action Of Mass Posting.
The <*.ini> files for both clones of PowerPost2000 in this archive are set to post in UUEncode format.
count for that format.
The illustrations shown here, as examples of setup for posting, will display the yEnc format.
I hope all of this answers your question. Please do provide anything you are not sure of.
Thank you for your most welcome post.
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