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Subject: Re: Here is thehelp with - UsenetPostingT00LS - you poor man
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:52:31 +0100
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:56:40 -0500, bobbin <spin@homebody.net.SPAM.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>Message-ID: <eqc4i4tq4lv5cssdiifegi5r5ifsalks25@4ax.com>
>>>>This shows what a backwoods inbread you are and how big your genetic defact is.
>>>>
>>>>You pretent to be so good then tell me how i could be here in 2004 and do you FUITH
>>>>think i have 2 ip adresses?
>>>>
>>>>Drop dead asshole, now i am sure the shit you post is fishy and other people who also
>>>>warned about your posts are right.
>>>>
>>>>Double PLONK you agent orange bread.
>>>
>>>
>>>What is FUITH?
>>>
>>>Looking at the comments you post.
>>>Looking at the posters you post them too.
>>>FUITH has to be "Freaking Undone In The Hoop".
>>>You read as being "undone" in the head from the menial
>>>ways you strive to undo good work in Group.
>>>
>>>You abuse posters in English you do not understand
>>>or make sense of.
>>>You insult posters who do hard work in posting helps.
>>>You post links to designs which are purely another's
>>>trash stash.
>>>Explain then how you are helping anyone but your own
>>>sick self?
>>>
>>>I am new to Group, not new to Usenet. I can sure say
>>>you would have been "run out of town" in a binary
>>>Group. Perhaps there is the cause for your FUITH?
>>>You need a vacation.
>>>
>>>hth
>Message-ID: <g4s5i4la0vg4ag8148k41jfnvc6a31puq6@4ax.com>
>>You know Bobbin, i do not need a vacation, the person i was talking to very well
>>knows the meaning of the abbreviation.
>>
>>I know i'm the black sheep here and i don't care less.
>>As you know there are more ways to skinn a cat but those people telling that their
>>way is the only way to do it right and other people taking their word as was it
>>gospel is what i am telling over and over again is not right.
>>It's like in the militairy, if the jackass higher in rank told you grass is red then
>>grass is red no discussion. Period.
>>When someone is posting a program over here while you can download it for free from
>>the official website then there is a bell going off in my head and i ask myself "why
>>does he want me to download his file" I question those things and that is why those
>>rH apostles agitate so hard against me.
>>The harder they scream the more i am confinced they are telling lies because they
>>void discussion about the subject.
>>Again i do not care and i also do not try to insult posters, i post those messages
>>once in a while to make people who download ( those guru's call them a leech ...
>>nasty anymals yuck!!! ) aware of those things and i hope they do their homework as
>>those guru's always say ( DO YOUR HOMEWORK ), well i did and i do not trust them
>>period, and examine what they are preaching.
>>Digging up a message from 2004 wich is never posted by me and telling people it was
>>send by me makes it clear what kind of people they are.
>>What idiot does keep messages of this group that long than only to misuse them
>>against people. Nobody is able to check if it is true what they post and they think
>>they have huge balls by posting things like that.
>>
>>You are new, and you think they would have me flamed out of a other group in the same
>>situation? Well do some googling on the subject SHARKPOST how the programmer of this
>>nice pice of software misused the open cource code and started selling the program.
>>Now it seems to be freeware again but the program is still suspicious to me and while
>>uploading files with it it just as well can send information to a other place
>>recording your ip address and recording what you are uploading to what place.
>>Sharkpost is called Narcpost by many people who know about software and because of
>>that i do not touch it.
>>What you mean by posting links to designs wich are a trash stach i do not know, maybe
>>some day i will see the light and understand what you say.
>>
>>And because nobody here is justifying himself over here i also do not feel the need
>>to do so and explain why i do things the way i do.
>
>Poor poor man, I am pulled between great pity and extreme embarrassment in having
>elicited quite the tirade from a poster when I was only making observation of the words
>you wrote, everywhere.
>You did write them and you did post your rant showing a confused mixture of paranoia
>with a raging envy for the ability of another to see quickly a condition you find
>impossible to understand.
>
>I have followed your lead in making a new topic with the subject line.
>As rude and unprofessional as that method of posting is I notice many use the way in
>Group.
>I copy you to show you there is no set method to "skinn a cat", it is just good manners
>to follow actions on Usenet that have been proven over time to work best. The Group
>approves of the use of subject to do many things subject was not designed for, so, I am
>not beginning to argue niceties with Group, or you.
>
>To what you posted I say.
>You are quite wrong, Usenet is not "like in the militairy", quite the opposite in fact,
>"organized anarchy" is maybe the description you seek.
>Then, there are many things you have wrong, in your head. I would write what I know
>to help you, but seriously, you could be well placed to take some professional advice
>without risk of making yourself very ill.
>
> "why does he want me to download his file"
>You vent against "rH apostles", why I have no idea but I can tell you I have seen those
>files posted some time ago and again just recently. The work is no different to any
>condensed FAQ you can find mounted on Internet sites and used as regular postings
>to Usenet. The files are quite well put together, being Group specific. And in
>downloading some of the posts here I am beginning to understand why that is. User
>behavior in the Group is quite different to any Group I have ever found.
>From the way you attempt to hide your postings I can see you are in need of some tips
>within those files. You are one who is different, so when you have someone posting as
>much as you do those being indolent will follow your method, thinking the less work
>done the easier it is for themselves.
>Regrettably, for all your effort, you really get it wrong many times over. I see you being
>asked to correct your posting style.I do not see you answer those requests or change
>your style. Is this your gripe, the fact you are being asked to correct your style to help
>every other user?
>Your wrong does not force anyone to be wrong also, no matter how often you post to
>show "more ways to skinn a cat". It is known there is more than one way, that is the
>nature of Usenet Groups. Unfortunately for you your way produces a "skinn" which is
>riddled with holes.
>You could do well to reconsider why it is you post the way you do, wherever you
>post binary. Use those parts of the tutorial which will help you, or, where you believe
>you have a better method, post the tutorial you would build and let the Group test it.
>
>Sure you can ask "why does he want me to download his file" but until you have
>an alternative or an improvement it is not your place to impede the education of those
>who are as different as you and do not wish to be.
>
>
>"i also do not try to insult posters"
>I really do not believe you are so naive to hold that opinion of your work.
>You are an adult, are you not?
>You are in control of what you do?
>I would say to you, only the cerebrally challenged would take comment you post
>as being a help. Your English is no excuse for the nastiness you direct at those
>trying to help other users. I suggest you consider saying nothing where you do not
>fully understand yourself, or at least ask the poster what they mean before ranting
>against their work.
>One example that made me wince was your response to someone who is here
>every time I login.
>***********
>Newsgroups: alt.binaries.crafts.pictures
>Subject: Re: Herb is this oesd post ok?
>Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 18:45:09 +0100
>Organization: De vrijbuiters
>Message-ID: <g78eh453t1fcgcrda9mav45a7npta5vl6l@4ax.com>
>
>"My Agent has no problem what so ever, see attachment. and i like it 73 headers
>for a 175 KB post. Parts should be 1K then it even becomes more interesting.
>***********
>The OP knows better than you do, and was helping the requestor. But in you come
>with your nasty slap to the thread. You respond in that manner more often than not.
>Insult or aggression, posts from your trumpeting of your problem help nobody.
>The requestor went away to post more files incorrectly. You helped that outcome.
>
>"What idiot does keep messages of this group that long"
>All binary groups were dumped by Google, there is no keeping of information posts
>which could help with questions asked time and time again. The picto groups
>have the same problem as is very obvious here, very few are keeping important
>information posts. I have seen the same request for help with "null files" pop up
>repeatedly, as just a single example.
>Users must keep their own records of information.
>You brand the poster of your information "idiot". What qualification have you to do so?
>The user has gone to the trouble of archiving posts, keeping them forever, maybe,
>Just what is idiotic about accurately storing repetitive tips or acts of misinformation?
>
>"Nobody is able to check if it is true what they post"
>The OP posted the User-ID, the Message-ID and the Host-ID.
>All of that information is linked and can be verified with the Host the post was made
>from.
>The OP posted correctly, you object to the information being posted.
>This tells me there is truth in the point being made.
>My guess is the OP did exactly that which you claim you do, in being different.
>" i post those messages once in a while to make people// aware"
>How is it fine in your mind for you to post scurrilous information and not fine for the
>OP to post what appears to be accurate information, given your performance?
>
>"Well do some googling on the subject SHARKPOST"
>The raging against Sharkpost and the cloning of Powerpost is just sheer ignorance
>gone horribly off kilter. In a word your FUITH applies very well to the misinformation
>you are posting. Freaking Undone In The Hoop!
>Sharkpost is now carried by a number of sites, something that may not have been
>available when the tutorials posted were built.
>http://download.acasa.ro/Windows/Internet/Bloguri-browsere-offline/download_SharkPost-.html
>http://www.clubic.com/telecharger-fiche194078-sharkpost.html
>http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/News-Newsgroups-Blog-Tools/SharkPost.shtml
>http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/141350
>http://www.nntp.it/cultura-classica/867522-interessantissima-possibilit-di-google.html
>
>All these users are wrong and you are right, right?
>
>Both SP and PP are the choice of binary posters in the picto and dvd groups.
>Get the working version of PP and the tool is fine. Many versions of PP corrupt
>posts for binary news software, rendering PP a nuisance, and the poster using
>the version of PP catching flames for their effort.
>All of this information has been tested and is well known in binary groups.
>The version of PP included with the tutorials works but is not the complete answer as
>posters have found throughout Usenet. There is maybe why SP is part of that tutorial.
>If you have used PP you will see quickly just how more flexible SP is to use.
>SP does not corrupt posts for binary news software.
>Your comments on SP are plainly the rant of someone who has an agenda of their own,
>an agenda that is not healthy for any Group.
>
>For the other small things?
>You are posting links using NZB to posts that clearly are put to Usenet for anything else
>but sharing. NZB itself can be a destructive tool for both the user's system and the
>Group when used in the manner you post. The only intent I can figure is a desire to
>fill volumes of catalogue partitions with trash. Trash being the quantity of system files,
>URL shortcuts, desktop.ini files, browser files, catalogue files, thumbnail design files,
>zips archived within RAR, duplicates hidden in sub-folders, the list is enormous!
>One post contained a 6MB thumbs.db file, another had Jpegs of 2MB 4MB 6 MB each!.
>One archive alone was 38MB, when sorted the file content that could be used to sew
>with was less than 3MB!
>Do those who are "different" in posting here not have some compassion for the waste,
>of time and bandwidth for the sewer?
>None of this can be seen with NZB. Where posts of such nature exist they should be
>examined before downloading completely. There is the prime reason why NZB cannot
>be trusted, the other is that NZB can be configured so as to hash a computer up.
>You post spurious warnings on a virus or a trojan yet you urge users to use NZB, NZB
>files that have no basis in trust, as a download quickly shows.
>I hope this answers your question "What you mean by posting links to designs wich
>are a trash stach".
>
>You might say how it is the poster is "he", how can you know?
>Yes, you are different, well, different to me. I do not *know* the gender of the
>poster and I have been watching quite a while.
>Is anyone who questions you a "he" maybe?
>To help you, it is not polite to use "he" or "she" when addressing a poster.
>You could use (s)he I suppose but it is safely polite to use "OP" or "the poster".
>And on your understanding of " leech ...nasty anymals yuck!!!", you are also very
>wrong.
>Leeching is common Usenet language use for downloading. Users are referred to
>as a leech as that is what they are doing, they are leeching the files they want
>from the many available. You are familiar with "leeching of soil and rock" resulting
>in pure chemical? There is the context "leech" is used in.
>As a matter of normal use I would have used "leech" in this post but in
>deference to your misunderstanding, with you being different, I politely used "User".
>It is these small accommodations that help sane civil conversation to prevail, in a Group.
>
>If I am alone in seeing the bells go off in your head driving the rush to justify yourself
>then I will accept that singular opinion as my property alone. I am new to Group, this
>is true, yet I am well equipped to judge you as a peer, arriving at those conclusions
>which read, "you would be flamed off another Group for what you do".
>You might well take up my opening suggestion and seek help, professional help.
>I am certain the prime recommendation at that source would be "take a vacation".
>
>hth
Thank you for your wise words, i will save this message as a text file and read it
over once in a while.
In regard to the file of 73 parts and posts that are many MB to large because things
not importand are included in them i only want to say that the remark on the 73 part
post was ment to draw attention to the fact that there are people who have a internet
subscription and pay for a certain amount of data per month. If they exceed this
amount they have to pay a lot of money more or they go back to a speed slower than
dailup and that is it is not good posting to break up a post in so many small parts
because the headers always are downloaded and a header also is data.
So to throw oil on the fire i told it would be nice to split a post in as many as
possible small parts instead of telling it would be better to find out what the max
size of a part can be accapted by all servers and then split posts in parts that
size, i guess i'm not very good in telling gallows humour.
Did anybody of the helping crowd who did redo the old FAQ of this group ever pay any
attention to that? I am 100% sure they did not, people only comment on so called OBZ
files wich are rejected by many servers.
And again i feel perfectly fine even if you think i need help, i do not think i need
any and please do not call me poor man because i'm not male.
Have a nice day.
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