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From: bobbin <spin@homebody.net.SPAM.invalid>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.crafts.pictures
Subject: Here is thehelp with - UsenetPostingT00LS - you poor man
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>>Message-ID: <eqc4i4tq4lv5cssdiifegi5r5ifsalks25@4ax.com>
>>>This shows what a backwoods inbread you are and how big your genetic defact is.
>>>
>>>You pretent to be so good then tell me how i could be here in 2004 and do you FUITH
>>>think i have 2 ip adresses?
>>>
>>>Drop dead asshole, now i am sure the shit you post is fishy and other people who also
>>>warned about your posts are right.
>>>
>>>Double PLONK you agent orange bread.
>>
>>
>>What is FUITH?
>>
>>Looking at the comments you post.
>>Looking at the posters you post them too.
>>FUITH has to be "Freaking Undone In The Hoop".
>>You read as being "undone" in the head from the menial
>>ways you strive to undo good work in Group.
>>
>>You abuse posters in English you do not understand
>>or make sense of.
>>You insult posters who do hard work in posting helps.
>>You post links to designs which are purely another's
>>trash stash.
>>Explain then how you are helping anyone but your own
>>sick self?
>>
>>I am new to Group, not new to Usenet. I can sure say
>>you would have been "run out of town" in a binary
>>Group. Perhaps there is the cause for your FUITH?
>>You need a vacation.
>>
>>hth
Message-ID: <g4s5i4la0vg4ag8148k41jfnvc6a31puq6@4ax.com>
>You know Bobbin, i do not need a vacation, the person i was talking to very well
>knows the meaning of the abbreviation.
>
>I know i'm the black sheep here and i don't care less.
>As you know there are more ways to skinn a cat but those people telling that their
>way is the only way to do it right and other people taking their word as was it
>gospel is what i am telling over and over again is not right.
>It's like in the militairy, if the jackass higher in rank told you grass is red then
>grass is red no discussion. Period.
>When someone is posting a program over here while you can download it for free from
>the official website then there is a bell going off in my head and i ask myself "why
>does he want me to download his file" I question those things and that is why those
>rH apostles agitate so hard against me.
>The harder they scream the more i am confinced they are telling lies because they
>void discussion about the subject.
>Again i do not care and i also do not try to insult posters, i post those messages
>once in a while to make people who download ( those guru's call them a leech ...
>nasty anymals yuck!!! ) aware of those things and i hope they do their homework as
>those guru's always say ( DO YOUR HOMEWORK ), well i did and i do not trust them
>period, and examine what they are preaching.
>Digging up a message from 2004 wich is never posted by me and telling people it was
>send by me makes it clear what kind of people they are.
>What idiot does keep messages of this group that long than only to misuse them
>against people. Nobody is able to check if it is true what they post and they think
>they have huge balls by posting things like that.
>
>You are new, and you think they would have me flamed out of a other group in the same
>situation? Well do some googling on the subject SHARKPOST how the programmer of this
>nice pice of software misused the open cource code and started selling the program.
>Now it seems to be freeware again but the program is still suspicious to me and while
>uploading files with it it just as well can send information to a other place
>recording your ip address and recording what you are uploading to what place.
>Sharkpost is called Narcpost by many people who know about software and because of
>that i do not touch it.
>What you mean by posting links to designs wich are a trash stach i do not know, maybe
>some day i will see the light and understand what you say.
>
>And because nobody here is justifying himself over here i also do not feel the need
>to do so and explain why i do things the way i do.
Poor poor man, I am pulled between great pity and extreme embarrassment in having
elicited quite the tirade from a poster when I was only making observation of the words
you wrote, everywhere.
You did write them and you did post your rant showing a confused mixture of paranoia
with a raging envy for the ability of another to see quickly a condition you find
impossible to understand.
I have followed your lead in making a new topic with the subject line.
As rude and unprofessional as that method of posting is I notice many use the way in
Group.
I copy you to show you there is no set method to "skinn a cat", it is just good manners
to follow actions on Usenet that have been proven over time to work best. The Group
approves of the use of subject to do many things subject was not designed for, so, I am
not beginning to argue niceties with Group, or you.
To what you posted I say.
You are quite wrong, Usenet is not "like in the militairy", quite the opposite in fact,
"organized anarchy" is maybe the description you seek.
Then, there are many things you have wrong, in your head. I would write what I know
to help you, but seriously, you could be well placed to take some professional advice
without risk of making yourself very ill.
"why does he want me to download his file"
You vent against "rH apostles", why I have no idea but I can tell you I have seen those
files posted some time ago and again just recently. The work is no different to any
condensed FAQ you can find mounted on Internet sites and used as regular postings
to Usenet. The files are quite well put together, being Group specific. And in
downloading some of the posts here I am beginning to understand why that is. User
behavior in the Group is quite different to any Group I have ever found.
From the way you attempt to hide your postings I can see you are in need of some tips
within those files. You are one who is different, so when you have someone posting as
much as you do those being indolent will follow your method, thinking the less work
done the easier it is for themselves.
Regrettably, for all your effort, you really get it wrong many times over. I see you being
asked to correct your posting style.I do not see you answer those requests or change
your style. Is this your gripe, the fact you are being asked to correct your style to help
every other user?
Your wrong does not force anyone to be wrong also, no matter how often you post to
show "more ways to skinn a cat". It is known there is more than one way, that is the
nature of Usenet Groups. Unfortunately for you your way produces a "skinn" which is
riddled with holes.
You could do well to reconsider why it is you post the way you do, wherever you
post binary. Use those parts of the tutorial which will help you, or, where you believe
you have a better method, post the tutorial you would build and let the Group test it.
Sure you can ask "why does he want me to download his file" but until you have
an alternative or an improvement it is not your place to impede the education of those
who are as different as you and do not wish to be.
"i also do not try to insult posters"
I really do not believe you are so naive to hold that opinion of your work.
You are an adult, are you not?
You are in control of what you do?
I would say to you, only the cerebrally challenged would take comment you post
as being a help. Your English is no excuse for the nastiness you direct at those
trying to help other users. I suggest you consider saying nothing where you do not
fully understand yourself, or at least ask the poster what they mean before ranting
against their work.
One example that made me wince was your response to someone who is here
every time I login.
***********
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.crafts.pictures
Subject: Re: Herb is this oesd post ok?
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 18:45:09 +0100
Organization: De vrijbuiters
Message-ID: <g78eh453t1fcgcrda9mav45a7npta5vl6l@4ax.com>
"My Agent has no problem what so ever, see attachment. and i like it 73 headers
for a 175 KB post. Parts should be 1K then it even becomes more interesting.
***********
The OP knows better than you do, and was helping the requestor. But in you come
with your nasty slap to the thread. You respond in that manner more often than not.
Insult or aggression, posts from your trumpeting of your problem help nobody.
The requestor went away to post more files incorrectly. You helped that outcome.
"What idiot does keep messages of this group that long"
All binary groups were dumped by Google, there is no keeping of information posts
which could help with questions asked time and time again. The picto groups
have the same problem as is very obvious here, very few are keeping important
information posts. I have seen the same request for help with "null files" pop up
repeatedly, as just a single example.
Users must keep their own records of information.
You brand the poster of your information "idiot". What qualification have you to do so?
The user has gone to the trouble of archiving posts, keeping them forever, maybe,
Just what is idiotic about accurately storing repetitive tips or acts of misinformation?
"Nobody is able to check if it is true what they post"
The OP posted the User-ID, the Message-ID and the Host-ID.
All of that information is linked and can be verified with the Host the post was made
from.
The OP posted correctly, you object to the information being posted.
This tells me there is truth in the point being made.
My guess is the OP did exactly that which you claim you do, in being different.
" i post those messages once in a while to make people// aware"
How is it fine in your mind for you to post scurrilous information and not fine for the
OP to post what appears to be accurate information, given your performance?
"Well do some googling on the subject SHARKPOST"
The raging against Sharkpost and the cloning of Powerpost is just sheer ignorance
gone horribly off kilter. In a word your FUITH applies very well to the misinformation
you are posting. Freaking Undone In The Hoop!
Sharkpost is now carried by a number of sites, something that may not have been
available when the tutorials posted were built.
http://download.acasa.ro/Windows/Internet/Bloguri-browsere-offline/download_SharkPost-.html
http://www.clubic.com/telecharger-fiche194078-sharkpost.html
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/News-Newsgroups-Blog-Tools/SharkPost.shtml
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/141350
http://www.nntp.it/cultura-classica/867522-interessantissima-possibilit-di-google.html
All these users are wrong and you are right, right?
Both SP and PP are the choice of binary posters in the picto and dvd groups.
Get the working version of PP and the tool is fine. Many versions of PP corrupt
posts for binary news software, rendering PP a nuisance, and the poster using
the version of PP catching flames for their effort.
All of this information has been tested and is well known in binary groups.
The version of PP included with the tutorials works but is not the complete answer as
posters have found throughout Usenet. There is maybe why SP is part of that tutorial.
If you have used PP you will see quickly just how more flexible SP is to use.
SP does not corrupt posts for binary news software.
Your comments on SP are plainly the rant of someone who has an agenda of their own,
an agenda that is not healthy for any Group.
For the other small things?
You are posting links using NZB to posts that clearly are put to Usenet for anything else
but sharing. NZB itself can be a destructive tool for both the user's system and the
Group when used in the manner you post. The only intent I can figure is a desire to
fill volumes of catalogue partitions with trash. Trash being the quantity of system files,
URL shortcuts, desktop.ini files, browser files, catalogue files, thumbnail design files,
zips archived within RAR, duplicates hidden in sub-folders, the list is enormous!
One post contained a 6MB thumbs.db file, another had Jpegs of 2MB 4MB 6 MB each!.
One archive alone was 38MB, when sorted the file content that could be used to sew
with was less than 3MB!
Do those who are "different" in posting here not have some compassion for the waste,
of time and bandwidth for the sewer?
None of this can be seen with NZB. Where posts of such nature exist they should be
examined before downloading completely. There is the prime reason why NZB cannot
be trusted, the other is that NZB can be configured so as to hash a computer up.
You post spurious warnings on a virus or a trojan yet you urge users to use NZB, NZB
files that have no basis in trust, as a download quickly shows.
I hope this answers your question "What you mean by posting links to designs wich
are a trash stach".
You might say how it is the poster is "he", how can you know?
Yes, you are different, well, different to me. I do not *know* the gender of the
poster and I have been watching quite a while.
Is anyone who questions you a "he" maybe?
To help you, it is not polite to use "he" or "she" when addressing a poster.
You could use (s)he I suppose but it is safely polite to use "OP" or "the poster".
And on your understanding of " leech ...nasty anymals yuck!!!", you are also very
wrong.
Leeching is common Usenet language use for downloading. Users are referred to
as a leech as that is what they are doing, they are leeching the files they want
from the many available. You are familiar with "leeching of soil and rock" resulting
in pure chemical? There is the context "leech" is used in.
As a matter of normal use I would have used "leech" in this post but in
deference to your misunderstanding, with you being different, I politely used "User".
It is these small accommodations that help sane civil conversation to prevail, in a Group.
If I am alone in seeing the bells go off in your head driving the rush to justify yourself
then I will accept that singular opinion as my property alone. I am new to Group, this
is true, yet I am well equipped to judge you as a peer, arriving at those conclusions
which read, "you would be flamed off another Group for what you do".
You might well take up my opening suggestion and seek help, professional help.
I am certain the prime recommendation at that source would be "take a vacation".
hth
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