On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:56:32 +1000, hopper
>Pixie <Pixie@AnnWheatley.com.invalid>wrote:
>>On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:27:35 +1000, Pixie
>><Pixie@AnnWheatley.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>Further to Hopper's offering --
>>
>>>OTOH..
>>>I am kinda torn between being keen to see the group
>>>flourish and entertaining those who would demand of
>>>others free time in doing cottage work for commercial
>>>gain. Hopefully the group is mature enough to avoid the
>>>latter.
>>>
>>I was hoping that by encouraging the masses to have a crack at their
>>own digitising, there would be less requests and just more "doing"
>>from the people that are currently "asking".
>>Wishing and fishing on my behalf??
>>
>Not entirely.
>There are those who will understand
>"give a man the rod and he shall catch his own fish".
>Then there are others who will find the technology
>simply exhausts them in acquiring the skill.
>Also... remember.. digitisers "do it" because they want
>to.
>
/snicker...
Oh!! Heard that somewhere's, didja...??
>One has to keep them happy too.
>A delicate balance?
>I reckon even Kofi Annan, as another retired "old
>coot", wouldn't want the job<g>
>
Yes! A delicate balance of back scratching...
Kofi Annan??... Twas His birthday last week...
An Aries with diplomatic skills.... Never seen one back down from a
challenge... He would "jag it"....
No doubt 'bout it... /laff
>.. and btw.. you are leaving out "Sammy" if you wish to
>challenge _all_ digitisers here in ABCP.
> /chuckle
>
Apols to budding digitisers out there...
I was only addressing the two with the most press (at the moment).
The loudest and the not so loud one..../grin
>>Instead of turning you and Herb into digitising slaves, perhaps those
>>cottage workers could be encouraged to do their own work.
>>
>Agreed... but the thrust has to be in educating a mix.
>Anything else --- in relying only on "auto-digi" and
>editing of product -- will simply produce results like
>this:
>http://ickes.us/embrodiery.aspx
>
>.. hardly even seemingly passable :-0
>
You're terrible, Muriel.... !!!
How did that Brother design get sewed out using a Singer??
Brother says that is not possible..... ROFL
:-^
>>That was what I was hoping for.
>>Teaching ppl what to ask for, thereby empowering them with the first
>>points of digitising (knowing what is wanted) can only inspire them to
>>try themselves?? No?
>>
>For those that wish to? Sure.
>Many may however simply wish to sew something digitised
>occasionally. This is where ABCP can help.
>What is then needed is for the project requested to be
>fully described by the requestor.
>Something I think we (digitisers) are all trying to
>say/put, albeit overly 'politely' :-<
>
2006/7 was a tragic year for flame wars... something few wish to
revisit.
Now it should just be about constructive learning.
School was never this sensitive to criticism!
>>If nothing else, get them to realise just how difficult some of the
>>requests really are.
>>
>Many I have seen require a commercial artist.
>The problem then is what does one "rebuild" in an image
>and still meet the expectations of the requestor?
>One has to run through a "is this what you want to see"
>type scenario.
>With the limited feedback so far experienced -- using
>that method -- only frustration and wasted time has
>been the result. For both parties no doubt.
>
Hmmm. A situation that won't improve until everyone understands the
basic rules of digitising.
Yeah, you start with a graphic, but if one is going to persist with
programs that need a perfect graphic.... there will be tears.
A good program will allow changes to be done by hand - moving stitch
points if the auto biz got it wrong.
In saying that... I just saw Snickle's request..... ROFL
>>You would view a posted attempt "how can I improve this??" with more
>>enthusiasm than a demand for the impossible from someone who doesn't
>>understand the complexity of what they have asked for.
>>
>Exactly.. and what has just recently been given example
>of.. a number of times.
>Note the feedback on those attempts ;-/
>
I donned my asbestos jacket!!... I was doing it more for Herb, cos I
thought He might like to know.
>Again thanks for the challenge<g>
>
Ya know how I love a challenge... /grin
/studies Latin book...
"Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit"
(or where angels fear to tread.... so I'm told....rofl)
>Your other effort I shall address in due course.. time
>is of the essence this morning.
>A project to get cracking on :-)
>
Yeah, I have a date with some music and a dance floor.
>cYa
>
Figuritively speaking, yessums.
Pixie :-))
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