After the first attempt, those stitches outside the star fall apart, but
not the star.
I brought Bonnie's digitizing tutorial and went through them. Give up is
not in my dictionary, so I brought more digitizing tutorial like Diane and
Carolyn today. May be couple month down the road, I will become lace
expert.
The thing is who on earth will give flower or lace bowl to those men that
we women love. We want to give them the team they love logo bowl. I am
really tired of seeing all those fancy pancy flower bowls out there in the
market. Thank you so much both Hopper and Herb. It is great experience
and will be wonderful and excellent experience in the future. Once I get
one working, the rest will be history. When that day comes, I will help
other to get what they need. Good nigh/day/afternoon/morning.
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 06:50:25 +1000, hopper
<hiPrn.146571$rq1.131792@en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com>:
>M&M Chocolate <M&M@chocolate.com>wrote:
>[..]
>>
>>On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 07:26:31 +1000, hopper
>><8Kurn.260927$vr1.198641@en-nntp-07.dc1.easynews.com>:
>>
>>>M&M Chocolate <M&M@chocolate.com>wrote:
>>>>I am so sorry Herb. It is my ignorant part. I thought if someone had
>>>>plain bowl and just slab on a star wala there I would have the bowl side.
>>>>
>>>>If it is such labor intense, I don't mean to have someone to waste their
>>>>precious time on me. I sincerely apologize.
>>>>
>>>mmm.. M&M, your reponse tells me you have no concept of
>>>the enormity of such a project.
>>>Myself, rather than read what is a somewhat dubious
>>>'apology', I would be more motivated if some
>>>understanding of what was being asked was expressed.
>>>In my part of the world
>>><q>
>>>waste their precious time on me
>>></q>
>>>is classic "passive aggressive" behavior..
>>>.. we all live in differing orbits tho', I guess.
>>> /shrug
>>>
>>>How much lace work have you ever done?
>>>Assembly, stitching or otherwise?
>>
>>I had very little digitizing experience.
>
>Ditto..
>
>
>> Mostly I used 4D extra for auto
>>digitizing. Most digitizers out there seem to use either embird and/or
>>wilcom.
>>
>I follow the embird froup.. none of those"digitise"
>either.. they "edit", mostly, if at all.
>I myself arrived at using Wilcom after many attempts at
>getting product out of "something else".
>
>>I had embroidered out many FSL lace including no assembly required, semi
>>assembly, or like bowl and book covers heavy assembly required. Sewing on
>>the other hand, I can claim MYSELF as number 2 and no one will dare to
>>claim number one.
>>
>I do not sew.
>
>> Friend of mine loves Dallas cowboy, so I thought a FSL bowl with each side
>>has star and doily with star would be not just wonderful but jaw drop
>>surprise.
>
>Indeed.
>
>> Mostly, I said to myself how hard the FSL star could be which
>>mostly straight line.
>
>Ah.. but it isn't.. it is a shape, a shape that has to
>be represented *in* lace.
>
>>So, after reading digitizing expert Herb's reply.
>>
>IF Herb was honest with others he would be saying by
>now , in fact long ago, "I am not a digitiser, at all".
>However each to his own.
>I sense you will discover this for yourself :-^
>
>> I did attempt to digitizing, but I think I need to combine the star with the
>>bowl side first in graphic to digitize
>>
>You wont do this work using an "autodigitiser".
>
>>
>>which I did the bowl side and the
>>star both in FSL, I did merge them, but I am afraid to stitch out.
>>
>I have come in late (been busy) so I see the truth of
>your fear, your attempt fell to pieces on the floor?
>Right?
>I could have saved you the effort as the approach you
>are using will never work and it is wrong to encourage
>you. And anything else is going to look cheap and
>"second-rate".. hardly "jaw dropping" then , eh? :-)
>
>One day.. and it may take a generational change.. the
>general run of person using this NG _will_ come to
>understand Usenet does not work in "real time".
>Therefore you use Usenet, and the opinions of its
>users, to _gather_ information and THEN do something.
>To read a single post, or a single day of posts, and
>then run off to act on what was posted is just plain
>folly.
>
>>Oh well, sometime great idea is not necessarily executable. There is no
>>hurt to think.
>
>Very true... think then about building the star and
>then *adding* the lace to it as a perimeter to end up
>with a whole side.
>
>M&M...
>This is a lace project, I don't do lace.
>Two reasons.
>1. I have 'seen' first hand what expert lacework
>presents as when 'sewn'.. the intricacy and true skill
>required is something a digitiser cannot trust another
>with in sewing out. You digitise you sew.
>Design houses that produce these designs are welcome to
>the work.
>2. Lace work is an architectural AND engineering
>creation.
>I am one, not the other.. so I just do not have the
>basic skill to even attempt building a lace design.
>
>And, yes.. Thought and Exploration are wonderful tools
>in Life.. as is Recognition.
>
>Recognise you cannot auto-digi lace. Herb not knowiing
>that basic fact should be screaming a truth at you.
>
>"res0y7ux" (Don) would have given you all of the above
>as a message.. these days he has to use a medium.
>He forwards his apologies as he is far too busy
>entertaining de Lawd.
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