M&M Chocolate <M&M@chocolate.com>wrote:
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>On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 07:26:31 +1000, hopper
><8Kurn.260927$vr1.198641@en-nntp-07.dc1.easynews.com>:
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>>M&M Chocolate <M&M@chocolate.com>wrote:
>>>I am so sorry Herb. It is my ignorant part. I thought if someone had
>>>plain bowl and just slab on a star wala there I would have the bowl side.
>>>
>>>If it is such labor intense, I don't mean to have someone to waste their
>>>precious time on me. I sincerely apologize.
>>>
>>mmm.. M&M, your reponse tells me you have no concept of
>>the enormity of such a project.
>>Myself, rather than read what is a somewhat dubious
>>'apology', I would be more motivated if some
>>understanding of what was being asked was expressed.
>>In my part of the world
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>>waste their precious time on me
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>>is classic "passive aggressive" behavior..
>>.. we all live in differing orbits tho', I guess.
>> /shrug
>>
>>How much lace work have you ever done?
>>Assembly, stitching or otherwise?
>
>I had very little digitizing experience.
Ditto..
> Mostly I used 4D extra for auto
>digitizing. Most digitizers out there seem to use either embird and/or
>wilcom.
>
I follow the embird froup.. none of those"digitise"
either.. they "edit", mostly, if at all.
I myself arrived at using Wilcom after many attempts at
getting product out of "something else".
>I had embroidered out many FSL lace including no assembly required, semi
>assembly, or like bowl and book covers heavy assembly required. Sewing on
>the other hand, I can claim MYSELF as number 2 and no one will dare to
>claim number one.
>
I do not sew.
> Friend of mine loves Dallas cowboy, so I thought a FSL bowl with each side
>has star and doily with star would be not just wonderful but jaw drop
>surprise.
Indeed.
> Mostly, I said to myself how hard the FSL star could be which
>mostly straight line.
Ah.. but it isn't.. it is a shape, a shape that has to
be represented *in* lace.
>So, after reading digitizing expert Herb's reply.
>
IF Herb was honest with others he would be saying by
now , in fact long ago, "I am not a digitiser, at all".
However each to his own.
I sense you will discover this for yourself :-^
> I did attempt to digitizing, but I think I need to combine the star with the
>bowl side first in graphic to digitize
>
You wont do this work using an "autodigitiser".
>
>which I did the bowl side and the
>star both in FSL, I did merge them, but I am afraid to stitch out.
>
I have come in late (been busy) so I see the truth of
your fear, your attempt fell to pieces on the floor?
Right?
I could have saved you the effort as the approach you
are using will never work and it is wrong to encourage
you. And anything else is going to look cheap and
"second-rate".. hardly "jaw dropping" then , eh? :-)
One day.. and it may take a generational change.. the
general run of person using this NG _will_ come to
understand Usenet does not work in "real time".
Therefore you use Usenet, and the opinions of its
users, to _gather_ information and THEN do something.
To read a single post, or a single day of posts, and
then run off to act on what was posted is just plain
folly.
>Oh well, sometime great idea is not necessarily executable. There is no
>hurt to think.
Very true... think then about building the star and
then *adding* the lace to it as a perimeter to end up
with a whole side.
M&M...
This is a lace project, I don't do lace.
Two reasons.
1. I have 'seen' first hand what expert lacework
presents as when 'sewn'.. the intricacy and true skill
required is something a digitiser cannot trust another
with in sewing out. You digitise you sew.
Design houses that produce these designs are welcome to
the work.
2. Lace work is an architectural AND engineering
creation.
I am one, not the other.. so I just do not have the
basic skill to even attempt building a lace design.
And, yes.. Thought and Exploration are wonderful tools
in Life.. as is Recognition.
Recognise you cannot auto-digi lace. Herb not knowiing
that basic fact should be screaming a truth at you.
"res0y7ux" (Don) would have given you all of the above
as a message.. these days he has to use a medium.
He forwards his apologies as he is far too busy
entertaining de Lawd.
--
hopper
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