+Grant <+Grant@grant.grant> wrote in
news:Grant-me-that-2703093@Grant.Grant:
> In article <aoips45tcmluvglbrdfbuhjkhg1j027um1@4ax.com>, NP-f31 wrote:
>
>> On 27 Mar 2009 11:46:48 GMT, gizzmo <gizz@invalid.org> wrote:
>>
>> >Hushmail is not safe. They log IP's and they are aible to read the
>> >E-Mail Traffic. And in the past, they have given IP-Logs and
>> >Mail-Traffic (in Clear Text) to DEA. Search for Hushmail, DEA,
>> >Steroid Bust. The only safe way for E-Mail is PGP-Encryption on you
>> >PC. If you use Hushmail for Begging the List, don't use your PC and
>> >your ISP. Use Internet Cafe's or open Hot Spots. When not, hmm, make
>> >some Coffee and buy Donuts for the nice Visitors early in the
>> >Morning.
>>
>> I agree. Hushmail is NOT safe. But it's a hell of a lot safer than
>> the Hotmail and Yahoo accounts some newbies are using. If you
>> bothered to read some of my posts, you'd know that I mentioned this
>> to newbies. I also suggested that they contact me with a throwaway
>> account if they didn't trust me. I've had the same Hushmail account
>> since 2000. I've had my personal info splashed in the groups by
>> trolls. I'm still here. Why? Because I'm not doing anything illegal.
>> Distributing a list of newsgroup names is not illegal. But as you and
>> your friend 'icicle' are suspicious of me, I am no longer circulating
>> my list. I will no longer send it out or advertise it until I get an
>> apology from both of you.
>>
>> >Why do you trust Doc? Has anybody gotten the list? I see no "Thanks"
>> >here in the group. Are you shure, that's not a Sting Operation for
>> >getting IP's?
>>
>> You're talking to ME about Sting Ops? Icicle is a COP, a policeman, a
>> Law Enforcement Agent. You ask ME for 'a proof' that I can be
>> trusted. Okay, let's turn the tables ~ I've made the claim dozens of
>> times about Officer Lookin, Oden, **_fact_**, Pig Castrator Hachet
>> Mus.cled George, icicle, etc. etc. He IS a cop and he's never ONCE
>> denied it. Why? Because if he does then anybody ensnared in his IP
>> harvesting scheme can claim entrapment.
>>
>> > Did Doc post some illegal stuff here or in other groups? Jimmy does
>> >(Thanks again), but Doc? Cops don't post illegal stuff.
>>
>> Why would you say that Jimmy posts illegal stuff? Are you an idiot?
>>
>> It's true, I have NEVER posted illegal stuff. Why? I don't collect
>> it, I don't have any. I made that decision years ago. While cops
>> don't post illegal stuff, they do run websites that have illegal
>> content. Remember the 'New Blue Orchid' Site? It was run by police
>> and some of the content was photos of the son of a State Trooper.
>> Officer Lookin, who has since stopped posting his bizarre artwork
>> BTW, got around the rules by taking the head of one boy and placing
>> it on the naked body of another and placing both on a different
>> background, therefore creating a 'work of art' which is not subject
>> to the porn laws in his jurisdiction.
>>
>> >Gentlemen, encrypt your Drives. Make them hidden. Use
>> >Opensource-Software like Truecrypt, so the Risk of a Backdoor for
>> >Cops is low. Use a long and complicated Password, no Names or
>> >something else. There are new Brute- Force-Attacks out, using Fast
>> >High Power GPU's (Graphic Cards), so I don't know, how long this
>> >method will be safe. Don't write down the Pass String. And don't
>> >hold it in the RAM-Memory of your PC on Runtime (Some Software will
>> >do this). If your PC is running while the nice Visitors have a
>> >closer look, they only need a Copy (Memorydump) of the Memory for
>> >getting the Pass. And if they are not stupid, thats the first thing
>> >they will do. Times have changed. Be paranoid, be safe.
>>
>> EXCELLENT ADVICE! Thank you!
>> >
>> >And Doc. Can we trust you? Give us a proof.
>>
>> I don't care if you trust me or not. I gave you a reasonable
>> explanation, but it is impossible to give you 'a proof' of whether I
>> can be trusted. Trust is built over time. I've spent nearly ten years
>> building a reputation. I'll stand on it.
>>
>> Can you give me 'a proof' that icicle is not a COP? How about a
>> simple denial? No? I thought not.
>>
>> Doc
>> NP-f31
>
>
> I'm posting through you Doc to gizzmo about trust so your post will be
> included in mine.
>
> gizzmo.
> Should we *trust* you about Doc? Or anything else you post? What is
> about you that makes you trustworthy to us? You didn't give us any new
> info or ideas that was never posted before but you did say some things
> that weren't true about some people. So on balance Doc looks more
> trustworthy. If you want to trash his rep you need to try harder not
> to trash your own rep at the same time.
>
> Moot it is though. Only a ignorant gullible fool would trust anyone
> posting here about anything. We can never be sure who is posting what
> we see. It could be *anybody* behind the nic at any time.
> Impersonations are easy. A poster sends you email. How do you know its
> really *that* poster and not somebody else like LEA? Maybe they even
> took over his computer after arresting him. We all have so much to
> looooose by one simple misstep we would be suicidally stupid to
> "trust" what people here say and do in post or in email. Good thing is
> we don't have to. Security info is available in lots of places. We can
> check out them all and then make up our own minds whats real or not.
>
> We have a sad/bad history about trust here that should more than prove
> what I say about it to people who have been here for years.
>
> Advice:
> Don't believe anything anybody posts just because they post it. Don't
> believe "reputations" good or bad that other people push on you about
> other people. They lie like a rug for their own selfish agenda. Make
> up your own mind if only to prove to other posters you actually have
> one. Watch what posters do and *how* they do it to learn something
> about security and something about them as individuals. Get advice
> from lots of people before you take it seriously but above all always
> think the worst about security until you have proof differently.
>
> There is no such thing as perfect security not even in death so you
> sure won't find it here! Just try to know as much as you can about
> security and be as careful as you can with what you chooooose to do.
> If you want to do something illegal do your best not to be noticed!
>
Yeah, Y-Not?
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