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From: charles_casey_google_groups@yahoo.com (Charles C.)
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Subject: Re: Position statement - Ch*rles C*sey's mind was not thinking clearly
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:43:02 +0000 (UTC)
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"Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message news:<c5hto0$o47$0@pita.alt.net>...
> news:107otmdgk731qee@corp.supernews.com...
> > Uncle Davey wrote:
> >
> > > news:107ofn8otp1vta9@corp.supernews.com...
> > >
> > >>Uncle Davey wrote:
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >>>news:107macn211b55e5@corp.supernews.com...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Uncle Davey wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>><snip>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>I doubt "Frank" agrees with your assessment, since I just unmasked
> her.
> > >>>
> > >>>It's
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>Ninure Saunders, the so-called Rainbow Christian. Beyond reasonable
> > >>>
> > >>>doubt.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Dave,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Provide your evidence. Your mere assertion isn't of value.
> > >>>>And since you've set the standard of evidence at 'beyond
> > >>>>reasonable doubt', that's the standard you need to meet. Meet it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Tom McDonald
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Okay, Tom.
> > >>>
> > >>>The frequent use of the term 'in jeopardy', the use of certain atypical
> > >>>verses, notably one in Colossians in an atypical translation to
> > >
> > > castigate
> > >
> > >>>the same groups of people.
> > >>>
> > >>>The fact that Ninure used to post virtually everyday and then stopped
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > >>>day "frank" started. The fact that 'he' has the same atypical view as
> > >
> > > Ninure
> > >
> > >>>that my more flexible view on gay relationships than most literalists
> > >
> > > would
> > >
> > >>>have still does go nearly far enough, the fact that he comes on with no
> > >>>history, and immediately knows how to test IDs and comes on posting at
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > >>>same volumes as Ninure.
> > >>>
> > >>>Examine then if you please the timbre of language in any Ninure
> saunders
> > >>>groups of postes and "Frank"'s . I think you will agree it is beyond
> > >>>reasonable doubt.
> > >>>
> > >>>There are a few more and I could I am sure generate a lot more, but I
> am
> > >>>pretty satisfied with the result so far.
> > >>>
> > >>>Now I am waiting for the honorable cough, and I hope she won't make the
> > >>>mistake I made when I didn't cough at this stage in the 'outing' of
> > >>>Constance Vigilant. I very much regretted that afterwards because it's
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > >>>only lie I've ever told on Usenet. Come on Ninure, I am listening for
> > >
> > > your
> > >
> > >>>cough. I cannot condemn you, being a ex-puppeteer myself, but we'll see
> > >
> > > what
> > >
> > >>>the people who dragged me through the mud for it do to you. My guess is
> > >>>absolutely nothing. What an evangelical can get away with is one thing,
> > >
> > > what
> > >
> > >>>a liberal can is quite another.
> > >>>
> > >>>Uncle Davey
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>Dave,
> > >>
> > >>Interesting, but this does not meet the standard you set.
> > >>
> > >>For one thing, how do you explain the different IP addresses,
> > >>hundreds of miles apart from each other? Please look at them,
> > >>trace them, and tell me how they are from the same person. Not
> > >>conjecture, not shouldacouldawoulda, but beyond a reasonable
> > >>doubt that, taking the IP addresses into consideration, they are
> > >>one not two different people.
> > >>
> > >>Tom McDonald
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > Do you, Tom, seriously think this person writes like someone who came
> onto
> > > Usenet on 8th March 2004?
> > >
> > > This person wants a suicide pact with me, but isn't telling me who they
> > > really are, and I think that sucks, Tom.
> > >
> > > That's getting me to cash in my whole Usenet franchise, afud and all,
> all on
> > > false pretences.
> > >
> > > Why haven't they got the balls to say who they were before 8th March?
> > >
> > > Uncle Davey
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > The answer you were looking for was "I can't explain the
> > different IP addresses". I can't say that Frank isn't a nym, or
> > even a sock puppet; but you say you can say that he is some
> > named person's sock. Your accusation, your responsibility to
> > support, your own standard of 'beyond a reasonable doubt', and
> > your inability to answer, or even address, the technical
> > question about IP addresses.
> >
> > Can you do better, or is this just more of the street theatre
> > of your mind?
> >
> > Tom McDonald
> >
>
> You are comparing the new IP address of Ninure with the Tokelau domain
> e-mail address to "Pericope", I suppose.
>
> I would expect them to be unrelated. It doesn't surprise me that they are
> unrelated. Where the IP addresses of constance Vigilant and my concurrent
> December 2003 postings at all related? Of course not. I would expect someone
> of Ninure's experience, which is at least half as much again as mine, to at
> least be that competent.
>
> I would expect the IP address of Ninure pre march 8, namely
> RainbowChristiannohate@hotmail.com posted through Google could be possibly a
> match for the pericope IP address, but my newsreader doesn't retain that far
> back so I don't have any headers for Ninure pre March 8. Google obviously
> doesn't provide these headers. If someone has a better retention, or keeps
> an archive, please provide the necessary data.
>
> Uncle Davey
These are your charges, you provide the evidence.
Google retains all of the header information. That's something a
person with your "experience" should know. Or is a mouse click on
"Original Format" beyond your comprehension?
It should be both illegal and painful to be as stupid as you are.
(Whether that stupidity is in the belief that someone will believe
these lame lies or that you really are this stupid.)
Are you enjoying the attention you begged for?
On second thought, I am tiring of your lies.
============= 3 minutes later ==============
Ninure Saunders' PC connects to the internet (using a DSL modem in
Chicago, IL) through Covad Communication Company, Chicago IL.
<www.covad.com>
Frank Pericope appears to be using a PC at work, or from home through
work (I will respect his privacy and not post the name of the company)
in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The company he works for leases their
access from AT&T.
Unless Frank commutes from Chicago to Pittsburgh every day, a distance
of 460 miles, your charges of him being a sock puppet of Ninure is so
absurd that you must have pulled it out of your ass.
Experience indeed.
-Charles-
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