On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 20:42:56 -0800, Mover wrote
(in article <021120090042562883%Mover@Watch-Me.com>):
> In article <0001HW.C713A7300020EA4CB02919BF@news.newscene.com>,
> Morpheus <Morpheus@dreamland.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:45:52 -0800, Mover wrote
>> (in article <011120091645525496%Mover@Watch-Me.com>):
>>
>>> In article <Xns9CB6B83D38132ail2@216.40.28.85>, Uri wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mover <Mover@Watch-Me.com> wrote in
>>>> news:311020092145143408%Mover@Watch-Me.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <Xns9CB61574616F7mails@216.40.28.85>, Uri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> NP-f31 wrote in news:nbt9e5pdvs2ggdjs160nni9r7c0flo12lo@4ax.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I asked you to describe what qualities you'd seek in a paedophile
>>>>>>> hero and what such a hero would have to do to defy the world and
>>>>>>> snatch victory from it. What I got was a lot of invective and
>>>>>>> abuse. If I were to take a few moments to remove the hatred and
>>>>>>> insults from your post THIS is what you said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My concept has merit? thank you Doc, I feel better now with your
>>>>>>>> recognisement!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your words denote the 'notable' excess of self esteem you have. I
>>>>>>>> consider you quite stupid. Take that fact as the starting point of
>>>>>>>> our argues, think about it as YOUR chance to change.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm all ears and eyes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You have been lucky to have grown your ego in a place so compliant
>>>>>>>> with your reflections, but take my word that an environment with a
>>>>>>>> higher IQ would have torn you to pieces long time ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh yeah, life is a breeze for me. Everything comes to me SO easily.
>>>>>>> I never have a problem in the world. You have no idea how things
>>>>>>> are for me. You're quick to assume things, but far be it for anyone
>>>>>>> else to do so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And about me, well, I will remain in silence as long as I was able
>>>>>>>> to control the repulsion that characters like you or your friend
>>>>>>>> y-not inspire to me. It's spectacular anyway the big number of
>>>>>>>> semireligious figures one has to meet and bear throughout life. At
>>>>>>>> what point of our dear civilization did we reserve a place for all
>>>>>>>> these frauds? They have the mouth full of 'jesus he loves me',
>>>>>>>> being that assumption an abstraction of the true feeling: 'I love
>>>>>>>> myself' -oftenly too much and oftenly with no discernment-. And
>>>>>>>> through love, self love, is that they feel in position to believe
>>>>>>>> that they are better than the rest, and therefore that they can
>>>>>>>> correct anyone. And if they say 'I'm genuinely interested in your
>>>>>>>> disagreement', they are meaning 'I'm professionally interested in
>>>>>>>> correcting yourself'. Well, you are quite idiot and my english can
>>>>>>>> be improved but you got the idea, didn't you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think you're saying that my interest in your point of view is
>>>>>>> disingenuous. And you don't want to be preached to. Is that
>>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another sort points: You can't stand an offer if you have nothing
>>>>>>>> to offer. My doubts are over your limits. I have not the lesser
>>>>>>>> interest in 'enlighting' yourself? Yes the opposite, but not by
>>>>>>>> you, obviously. And you question about the nature of my war at the
>>>>>>>> same time that claim to be 'mine in boylove'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, I've made no attempt to change your mind. I'm trying to get
>>>>>>> you to speak yours. I'd like to understand the root of your rage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not like you, so don't ever presume again to be like me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's easy because I have no idea what you're about. So far you
>>>>>>> have been full of unfocused anger that you'd like to hurl at me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To begin with, I'm not an hypocrite with leadership illusions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you explain in what way I'm a hypocrite? As for leadership
>>>>>>> illusions, this is my philosophy: I am a rugged individualist. I
>>>>>>> know what I want and what I believe in. I do what I think is right.
>>>>>>> Whether people follow or not is not a matter of concern to me. If I
>>>>>>> believe someone is wrong I speak my mind. If someone needs help, I
>>>>>>> generally lend a hand. I'm not perfect and I don't strive for
>>>>>>> perfection. I do my best.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Besides, I
>>>>>>>> can talk about exposition. I'm exposed to a world often hostile,
>>>>>>>> and I do without a picture of my family in my pocket.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps that is a direct result of the way you approach the world.
>>>>>>> Why does the fact that I'm a father bug you? I became a Dad before
>>>>>>> I realized I was a boylover.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tell us, dear Doc, how many
>>>>>>>> times did you hide yourself behind your marriage?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Never. You don't know, you can only assume. My wife knows I am a
>>>>>>> boylover. My oldest son knows I am a boylover, my best friends know
>>>>>>> I am a boylover, my parents know too. Are you more out of the
>>>>>>> closet than me? I doubt it. Unless, of course, you were hauled
>>>>>>> before the courts because of something you did to a child, then
>>>>>>> EVERYONE knows about you being a pedophile, right? Have you
>>>>>>> voluntarliy admitted your secret to anyone close to you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How many times did you
>>>>>>>> hide your interest in boys behind a picture of your own children?
>>>>>>>> Now tell me that you never approached to an anonymous boy and told
>>>>>>>> him: 'I'm father of 2 little boys just like you...'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't approach anonymous boys. I smile at them from a respectful
>>>>>>> distance. One time when I did help a boy in trouble I said, 'I know
>>>>>>> I'm not your Dad, but I am a Dad; and nothing you could tell me
>>>>>>> would surprise me.' I'm not a predator Uri. When I see a boy, my
>>>>>>> first thought is not sexual. It is one of appreciation. In saying
>>>>>>> that I'm not judging anyone, simply refuting your implications with
>>>>>>> the truth about me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, I'm not the fraud you are, I don't
>>>>>>>> have such a useful mask as the one you allways wear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's an assumption I wouldn't make of another. How do you
>>>>>>> approach an anonymous boy?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 'Pedohero' is disparaging, didn't you notice?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought it was clever invention. I wanted to be the first to say
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When Michael Jackson gave that famous interview he was near to be
>>>>>>>> hero, he exposed his feelings just like they were, knowing the
>>>>>>>> rejection he would rise. Lamentably, not even his fortune could
>>>>>>>> isolate him from such an opposition. The pressure drove him to
>>>>>>>> madness. He wanted to be a boy, to transform himself into a boy,
>>>>>>>> the only image of beauty he ever knew. To hide his persona he
>>>>>>>> bought a family like yours, my dear Doc. He bought your legitimate
>>>>>>>> mask and Mark Lester' sperm all in the same packet, isn't it cool?
>>>>>>>> And well, why all this peripheral deranged chatter? Oh yes, the
>>>>>>>> hero.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A hero is an executant of his own and true feelings, even when
>>>>>>>> those feelings aren't shared by any other person in the world. The
>>>>>>>> definition could approach the terms heroism and madness more than
>>>>>>>> we wish, except for the own definition of 'truth' and 'true
>>>>>>>> feelings'. Truth can be the same for everybody, and that's the key
>>>>>>>> and my end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was about to be disappointed thinking that Michael Jackson was
>>>>>>> the best you could do. But then you gave me a pseudo-definition of
>>>>>>> what a pedophile hero would be to you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It comes down to being true to yourself no matter what others
>>>>>>> think. Right? I think what you described is the act of being noble.
>>>>>>> How does a pedophile being true to himself defy the world and
>>>>>>> snatch victory from it? I think the answer may lie in your usage of
>>>>>>> the word executant. One who 'performs' his own true feelings. What
>>>>>>> does that mean to you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Save your answer, I don't need it, do you need it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No answer, only more questions. Earlier you disparaged me by saying
>>>>>>> that I used so many words to say so little. I think the same
>>>>>>> applies to you. Your answer is pretty lame. If you'd like to be a
>>>>>>> paedophile hero you're going to need more than just your 'super
>>>>>>> insulting powers'. That and a cool suit wouldn't even make you a
>>>>>>> comic book hero. Heroes lead, and they need to give others a reason
>>>>>>> to follow. If I'm all the BL world has for a hero, then as a group
>>>>>>> we're screwed, right? So, why don't you REALLY speak your mind and
>>>>>>> lead rather than bitch at others from the sidelines. You act like
>>>>>>> it's a piece of cake.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is the difference between you and me. I took a stance and
>>>>>>> support it. I talk the talk and walk the walk. I'm out here taking
>>>>>>> bullets form wannabes like you. You want the mantle? Come and take
>>>>>>> it. You want to lead? Then step out front. Come out of the shadows
>>>>>>> proud paedophile and be the point man. Lead, maybe I'll follow.
>>>>>>> Start your revolution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Otherwise shut the fuck up and quit whining.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> P.S. Isn't it fabulous the -notable again- number of deaths that
>>>>>>>> devastate the 'boylover world'? How many, how many? Our boys are
>>>>>>>> dying, how tragic! the devil couldn't wait another day to have
>>>>>>>> those boys in his arms. Maybe our sperm is carrier of some kind of
>>>>>>>> terrible curse, who knows, the list of tragic and early deaths is
>>>>>>>> big enough to question ourselves. Duncan, Lloyd, a guy named Kolya,
>>>>>>>> Kidhacker, the old Y-not, John the latin kid, a guy named MTB,
>>>>>>>> Vladik... Jesuschrist, and the ingenuous boylovers believe, without
>>>>>>>> reasonable doubt, anything that is said to them. Some people fake
>>>>>>>> that they are children, some fake that they are moribund. It's a
>>>>>>>> kind of lie very recurrent here, the boylover groups love drama. My
>>>>>>>> oppinion is that neither boylovers nor lovedboys have a premature
>>>>>>>> date with death, but in any case with lie. Take it the way you
>>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I truly hope that Vladik isn't dead. I know you meant to be
>>>>>>> sarcastic, but boys die too. If he is alive and well that would
>>>>>>> thrill me. He gave us joy. Did he give you no joy? If he IS dead,
>>>>>>> it is a tragedy, isn't it? The rate of death in the boylove world
>>>>>>> is the same rate of death as in the general population. But we have
>>>>>>> fewer numbers and it hits us harder. And yes, a lot of BLs are
>>>>>>> Drama Queens. Sometimes the deaths are real, sometimes they are
>>>>>>> rumours. It is quite clear that Duncan and Lloyd are alive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't 'whining' a very recurrent expression from this group, this
>>>>>> group of kids? Logic. Childish expressions and ideas from a bunch of
>>>>>> children.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And about your post, I told you, I have too few respect for you to
>>>>>> waste my time answering your stupid blahblah. Give me something
>>>>>> intelligent and I'll answer. But how did you dare to ask me if I want
>>>>>> your mantle, after all I said? And you call my anger 'unfocused'? But
>>>>>> whathefuck, who I'm talking to? You must be very stupid, more than I
>>>>>> imagined. I never recognized your 'mantle', neither the mantle of
>>>>>> those who you define as heroes. The heroes are leaders? Come on, my
>>>>>> dear Doc, you expose yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see your cockroache Y-not very active lately, more than usual. So
>>>>>> he didn't realized that I consider him an insect? Mmmm.. Or maybe he
>>>>>> doesn't want to believe. He fools himself then :). Come on, my dear
>>>>>> Doc, he wants to be your closest friend, you smell 'familiar' x) to
>>>>>> him. I think he's a little in love with you. I remember to have seen
>>>>>> something like that before. But where? Oh yes, at school, the cool
>>>>>> boy and his lackey, a classic couple
>>>>>
>>>>> Funny you complaining about "whining" in this group. There would be
>>>>> much less if you didn't do it. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Doc and Y Not were enemies. You don't look very intelligent yourself,
>>>>> saying they were even nice to each other, much less friends. And since
>>>>> Y Not is dead, they can never kiss and make up. What does a ghost
>>>>> taste like? LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Why is it you say Doc is too stupid to be worth posting to, when you
>>>>> are posting to him? Is it because you are equally, if not more, stupid
>>>>> yourself?
>>>>>
>>>>> Doc is wasting his time with you, but most of us know why, and why he
>>>>> posts in the Fort in general. The real question is why are YOU posting
>>>>> here and to Doc? Is it because you like looking stupid? LOL
>>>>> It sure doesn't look like you are trying to accomplish anything
>>>>> useful. Except to help make fun of you. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Mover
>>>>
>>>> Funfunfunfunfun, forgodshake, what a loser. Being you a lunatic extremely
>>>> nervous and with a miserable sense of humor, probably you are the only
>>>> buffon here who doesn't get fun at all. So you are too pathetic to make
>>>> me
>>>> smile, too blunt to get me angry, and too stupid to excite my
>>>> intelligence.
>>>> A waste, as said before.
>>>
>>>
>>> Why should I want to excite anything about you? Why should I do
>>> ANYTHING to please you? Why should anybody here do anything you want?
>>> Give me a reason. Any reason. You haven't yet. Not one.
>>> So, I don't feel like it. LOL
>>>
>>> Most, if not all, of my humor here is understandable only by someone
>>> fluent in English, and much of that only someone born to English will
>>> understand, and some of that only a very educated person will fully
>>> understand. Translation programs won't work. Therefore, that you don't
>>> understand or appreciate my humor is to be expected, as you obviously
>>> are not as skilled with English as you presumably are with your native
>>> language. What might be interesting, is why you don't know this.
>>>
>>> By the way, an admitted depressed looser, you, calling somebody here
>>> who at least tries to be funny a loser, is very funny. LOL
>>>
>>> Mover
>>
>> Fluent in english? Check
>>
>> Native born speaker? Check
>>
>> Very educated? Check
>
> Who, you? Me? Somebody else? A combo platter?
> You didn't say.
>
>> I still think your humor sucks....
>
> Not "electrifying"? LOL
>
> But at least it doesn't suck dead people! LOL
> Or swallow doll heads. Ugh!
>
> For someone who doesn't like my humor, you strangely act to encourage
> quite a lot of it by your posts. In my own very important opinion
> (LOL), that's funny!
>
>> And in the "aren't I clever catching typos" department I'm not clear what
>> "....an admitted depressed looser..." means. Looser in what way?
>> Skeletally?
>
> Make no bones about it. LOL
>
> Thank you for that lovely straight line. I was hoping you would catch
> that one "error", since you expressed interest in doing that,
> "especially" this kind. LOL Notice I spelled it right the next time?
> This is all Uri is good for; giving me an opportunity to encourage
> friends to play.
>
> There's one thing about my humor you should have noticed. This is not
> copied joke posting. It's all spur of the moment, created as I type it,
> and I type very fast. I think some people appreciate it, and the effort
> and skill that goes into it. But, that doesn't matter too much. What
> matters most to me is I like it, and enjoy reading some of what I write
> again sometimes.
>
> When I suggested another thread, I didn't mean make an already long
> thread longer!
> I think you knew that too.
> Are you messin' wit' me! LOL
>
> Anyway, PLAY with me some more? LOL
>
> Mover
>
> Ps Disappointing the attack poetry has dried up.
So you deliberately put the typo in so that I would catch it?
You are a fucking riot. Do you think anyone actually believes that? Hey.
You fucked up. It happens to all of us. Remember those times you forgot to
change your header when you were posting as one your puppets? That was so
fun...
If I had shitty jokes like yours (are they even jokes??) I'd be relieved to
attribute them to someone else. But, you openley admit that you have
"created" them.
Me? Mess with you. Perish the thought.
Why don't you start a new thread if you feel the need. I might suggest the
subject line: Shit on Y-Not and his Deputies
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