On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:45:52 -0800, Mover wrote
(in article <011120091645525496%Mover@Watch-Me.com>):
> In article <Xns9CB6B83D38132ail2@216.40.28.85>, Uri wrote:
>
>> Mover <Mover@Watch-Me.com> wrote in
>> news:311020092145143408%Mover@Watch-Me.com:
>>
>>> In article <Xns9CB61574616F7mails@216.40.28.85>, Uri wrote:
>>>
>>>> NP-f31 wrote in news:nbt9e5pdvs2ggdjs160nni9r7c0flo12lo@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> I asked you to describe what qualities you'd seek in a paedophile
>>>>> hero and what such a hero would have to do to defy the world and
>>>>> snatch victory from it. What I got was a lot of invective and
>>>>> abuse. If I were to take a few moments to remove the hatred and
>>>>> insults from your post THIS is what you said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My concept has merit? thank you Doc, I feel better now with your
>>>>>> recognisement!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Your words denote the 'notable' excess of self esteem you have. I
>>>>>> consider you quite stupid. Take that fact as the starting point of
>>>>>> our argues, think about it as YOUR chance to change.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm all ears and eyes.
>>>>>
>>>>>> You have been lucky to have grown your ego in a place so compliant
>>>>>> with your reflections, but take my word that an environment with a
>>>>>> higher IQ would have torn you to pieces long time ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh yeah, life is a breeze for me. Everything comes to me SO easily.
>>>>> I never have a problem in the world. You have no idea how things
>>>>> are for me. You're quick to assume things, but far be it for anyone
>>>>> else to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>>> And about me, well, I will remain in silence as long as I was able
>>>>>> to control the repulsion that characters like you or your friend
>>>>>> y-not inspire to me. It's spectacular anyway the big number of
>>>>>> semireligious figures one has to meet and bear throughout life. At
>>>>>> what point of our dear civilization did we reserve a place for all
>>>>>> these frauds? They have the mouth full of 'jesus he loves me',
>>>>>> being that assumption an abstraction of the true feeling: 'I love
>>>>>> myself' -oftenly too much and oftenly with no discernment-. And
>>>>>> through love, self love, is that they feel in position to believe
>>>>>> that they are better than the rest, and therefore that they can
>>>>>> correct anyone. And if they say 'I'm genuinely interested in your
>>>>>> disagreement', they are meaning 'I'm professionally interested in
>>>>>> correcting yourself'. Well, you are quite idiot and my english can
>>>>>> be improved but you got the idea, didn't you?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you're saying that my interest in your point of view is
>>>>> disingenuous. And you don't want to be preached to. Is that
>>>>> correct?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Another sort points: You can't stand an offer if you have nothing
>>>>>> to offer. My doubts are over your limits. I have not the lesser
>>>>>> interest in 'enlighting' yourself? Yes the opposite, but not by
>>>>>> you, obviously. And you question about the nature of my war at the
>>>>>> same time that claim to be 'mine in boylove'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I've made no attempt to change your mind. I'm trying to get
>>>>> you to speak yours. I'd like to understand the root of your rage.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not like you, so don't ever presume again to be like me.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's easy because I have no idea what you're about. So far you
>>>>> have been full of unfocused anger that you'd like to hurl at me.
>>>>>
>>>>>> To begin with, I'm not an hypocrite with leadership illusions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you explain in what way I'm a hypocrite? As for leadership
>>>>> illusions, this is my philosophy: I am a rugged individualist. I
>>>>> know what I want and what I believe in. I do what I think is right.
>>>>> Whether people follow or not is not a matter of concern to me. If I
>>>>> believe someone is wrong I speak my mind. If someone needs help, I
>>>>> generally lend a hand. I'm not perfect and I don't strive for
>>>>> perfection. I do my best.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Besides, I
>>>>>> can talk about exposition. I'm exposed to a world often hostile,
>>>>>> and I do without a picture of my family in my pocket.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps that is a direct result of the way you approach the world.
>>>>> Why does the fact that I'm a father bug you? I became a Dad before
>>>>> I realized I was a boylover.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tell us, dear Doc, how many
>>>>>> times did you hide yourself behind your marriage?
>>>>>
>>>>> Never. You don't know, you can only assume. My wife knows I am a
>>>>> boylover. My oldest son knows I am a boylover, my best friends know
>>>>> I am a boylover, my parents know too. Are you more out of the
>>>>> closet than me? I doubt it. Unless, of course, you were hauled
>>>>> before the courts because of something you did to a child, then
>>>>> EVERYONE knows about you being a pedophile, right? Have you
>>>>> voluntarliy admitted your secret to anyone close to you?
>>>>>
>>>>>> How many times did you
>>>>>> hide your interest in boys behind a picture of your own children?
>>>>>> Now tell me that you never approached to an anonymous boy and told
>>>>>> him: 'I'm father of 2 little boys just like you...'
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't approach anonymous boys. I smile at them from a respectful
>>>>> distance. One time when I did help a boy in trouble I said, 'I know
>>>>> I'm not your Dad, but I am a Dad; and nothing you could tell me
>>>>> would surprise me.' I'm not a predator Uri. When I see a boy, my
>>>>> first thought is not sexual. It is one of appreciation. In saying
>>>>> that I'm not judging anyone, simply refuting your implications with
>>>>> the truth about me.
>>>>>
>>>>>> No, I'm not the fraud you are, I don't
>>>>>> have such a useful mask as the one you allways wear.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's an assumption I wouldn't make of another. How do you
>>>>> approach an anonymous boy?
>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Pedohero' is disparaging, didn't you notice?
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought it was clever invention. I wanted to be the first to say
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> When Michael Jackson gave that famous interview he was near to be
>>>>>> hero, he exposed his feelings just like they were, knowing the
>>>>>> rejection he would rise. Lamentably, not even his fortune could
>>>>>> isolate him from such an opposition. The pressure drove him to
>>>>>> madness. He wanted to be a boy, to transform himself into a boy,
>>>>>> the only image of beauty he ever knew. To hide his persona he
>>>>>> bought a family like yours, my dear Doc. He bought your legitimate
>>>>>> mask and Mark Lester' sperm all in the same packet, isn't it cool?
>>>>>> And well, why all this peripheral deranged chatter? Oh yes, the
>>>>>> hero.
>>>>>
>>>>>> A hero is an executant of his own and true feelings, even when
>>>>>> those feelings aren't shared by any other person in the world. The
>>>>>> definition could approach the terms heroism and madness more than
>>>>>> we wish, except for the own definition of 'truth' and 'true
>>>>>> feelings'. Truth can be the same for everybody, and that's the key
>>>>>> and my end.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was about to be disappointed thinking that Michael Jackson was
>>>>> the best you could do. But then you gave me a pseudo-definition of
>>>>> what a pedophile hero would be to you.
>>>>>
>>>>> It comes down to being true to yourself no matter what others
>>>>> think. Right? I think what you described is the act of being noble.
>>>>> How does a pedophile being true to himself defy the world and
>>>>> snatch victory from it? I think the answer may lie in your usage of
>>>>> the word executant. One who 'performs' his own true feelings. What
>>>>> does that mean to you?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Save your answer, I don't need it, do you need it?
>>>>>
>>>>> No answer, only more questions. Earlier you disparaged me by saying
>>>>> that I used so many words to say so little. I think the same
>>>>> applies to you. Your answer is pretty lame. If you'd like to be a
>>>>> paedophile hero you're going to need more than just your 'super
>>>>> insulting powers'. That and a cool suit wouldn't even make you a
>>>>> comic book hero. Heroes lead, and they need to give others a reason
>>>>> to follow. If I'm all the BL world has for a hero, then as a group
>>>>> we're screwed, right? So, why don't you REALLY speak your mind and
>>>>> lead rather than bitch at others from the sidelines. You act like
>>>>> it's a piece of cake.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the difference between you and me. I took a stance and
>>>>> support it. I talk the talk and walk the walk. I'm out here taking
>>>>> bullets form wannabes like you. You want the mantle? Come and take
>>>>> it. You want to lead? Then step out front. Come out of the shadows
>>>>> proud paedophile and be the point man. Lead, maybe I'll follow.
>>>>> Start your revolution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Otherwise shut the fuck up and quit whining.
>>>>>
>>>>> Doc
>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. Isn't it fabulous the -notable again- number of deaths that
>>>>>> devastate the 'boylover world'? How many, how many? Our boys are
>>>>>> dying, how tragic! the devil couldn't wait another day to have
>>>>>> those boys in his arms. Maybe our sperm is carrier of some kind of
>>>>>> terrible curse, who knows, the list of tragic and early deaths is
>>>>>> big enough to question ourselves. Duncan, Lloyd, a guy named Kolya,
>>>>>> Kidhacker, the old Y-not, John the latin kid, a guy named MTB,
>>>>>> Vladik... Jesuschrist, and the ingenuous boylovers believe, without
>>>>>> reasonable doubt, anything that is said to them. Some people fake
>>>>>> that they are children, some fake that they are moribund. It's a
>>>>>> kind of lie very recurrent here, the boylover groups love drama. My
>>>>>> oppinion is that neither boylovers nor lovedboys have a premature
>>>>>> date with death, but in any case with lie. Take it the way you
>>>>>> like.
>>>>>
>>>>> I truly hope that Vladik isn't dead. I know you meant to be
>>>>> sarcastic, but boys die too. If he is alive and well that would
>>>>> thrill me. He gave us joy. Did he give you no joy? If he IS dead,
>>>>> it is a tragedy, isn't it? The rate of death in the boylove world
>>>>> is the same rate of death as in the general population. But we have
>>>>> fewer numbers and it hits us harder. And yes, a lot of BLs are
>>>>> Drama Queens. Sometimes the deaths are real, sometimes they are
>>>>> rumours. It is quite clear that Duncan and Lloyd are alive.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Isn't 'whining' a very recurrent expression from this group, this
>>>> group of kids? Logic. Childish expressions and ideas from a bunch of
>>>> children.
>>>>
>>>> And about your post, I told you, I have too few respect for you to
>>>> waste my time answering your stupid blahblah. Give me something
>>>> intelligent and I'll answer. But how did you dare to ask me if I want
>>>> your mantle, after all I said? And you call my anger 'unfocused'? But
>>>> whathefuck, who I'm talking to? You must be very stupid, more than I
>>>> imagined. I never recognized your 'mantle', neither the mantle of
>>>> those who you define as heroes. The heroes are leaders? Come on, my
>>>> dear Doc, you expose yourself.
>>>>
>>>> I see your cockroache Y-not very active lately, more than usual. So
>>>> he didn't realized that I consider him an insect? Mmmm.. Or maybe he
>>>> doesn't want to believe. He fools himself then :). Come on, my dear
>>>> Doc, he wants to be your closest friend, you smell 'familiar' x) to
>>>> him. I think he's a little in love with you. I remember to have seen
>>>> something like that before. But where? Oh yes, at school, the cool
>>>> boy and his lackey, a classic couple
>>>
>>> Funny you complaining about "whining" in this group. There would be
>>> much less if you didn't do it. LOL
>>>
>>> Doc and Y Not were enemies. You don't look very intelligent yourself,
>>> saying they were even nice to each other, much less friends. And since
>>> Y Not is dead, they can never kiss and make up. What does a ghost
>>> taste like? LOL
>>>
>>> Why is it you say Doc is too stupid to be worth posting to, when you
>>> are posting to him? Is it because you are equally, if not more, stupid
>>> yourself?
>>>
>>> Doc is wasting his time with you, but most of us know why, and why he
>>> posts in the Fort in general. The real question is why are YOU posting
>>> here and to Doc? Is it because you like looking stupid? LOL
>>> It sure doesn't look like you are trying to accomplish anything
>>> useful. Except to help make fun of you. LOL
>>>
>>> Mover
>>
>> Funfunfunfunfun, forgodshake, what a loser. Being you a lunatic extremely
>> nervous and with a miserable sense of humor, probably you are the only
>> buffon here who doesn't get fun at all. So you are too pathetic to make me
>> smile, too blunt to get me angry, and too stupid to excite my intelligence.
>> A waste, as said before.
>
>
> Why should I want to excite anything about you? Why should I do
> ANYTHING to please you? Why should anybody here do anything you want?
> Give me a reason. Any reason. You haven't yet. Not one.
> So, I don't feel like it. LOL
>
> Most, if not all, of my humor here is understandable only by someone
> fluent in English, and much of that only someone born to English will
> understand, and some of that only a very educated person will fully
> understand. Translation programs won't work. Therefore, that you don't
> understand or appreciate my humor is to be expected, as you obviously
> are not as skilled with English as you presumably are with your native
> language. What might be interesting, is why you don't know this.
>
> By the way, an admitted depressed looser, you, calling somebody here
> who at least tries to be funny a loser, is very funny. LOL
>
> Mover
Fluent in english? Check
Native born speaker? Check
Very educated? Check
I still think your humor sucks....
And in the "aren't I clever catching typos" department I'm not clear what
"....an admitted depressed looser..." means. Looser in what way?
Skeletally?
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