On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:11:45 -0700, Mover wrote
(in article <291020092011459224%Mover@Watch-Me.com>):
> In article <0001HW.C70E865E0030FC5BB02919BF@news.newscene.com>,
> Morpheus <Morpheus@dreamland.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:37:02 -0700, Mover wrote
>> (in article <271020090037026309%Mover@Watch-Me.com>):
>>
>>> In article <0001HW.C70BB33B00278972B02919BF@news.newscene.com>,
>>> Morpheus <Morpheus@dreamland.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:08:23 -0700, Mover wrote
>>>> (in article <261020091808232835%Mover@Watch-Me.com>):
>>>>
>>>>> In article <0001HW.C70A8A2C00132621B02919BF@news.newscene.com>,
>>>>> Morpheus <Morpheus@dreamland.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 05:30:39 -0700, Fort Babysitter wrote
>>>>>> (in article <4uOdnYDRoYPsbn_XnZ2dnUVZ_qWdnZ2d@giganews.com>):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A small bit of Y-Not profile
>>>>>>> ===================
>>>>>>> This post discusses a few of the small bits of
>>>>>>> Y-Not and the small Y-Not's moronic presence
>>>>>>> on Usenet.
>>>>>>> ++
>>>>>>> After repeatedly attempting to compete with
>>>>>>> KidHacker for a presence in the Fort and upon
>>>>>>> miserably failing, Y-Not started resorting to using
>>>>>>> tricks that Y-Not thought were clever. And again
>>>>>>> Y-Not failed miserably. Y-Not was Usenet castrated
>>>>>>> in the Fort.
>>>>>>> ++
>>>>>>> The Usenet castration of Y-Not drove the small
>>>>>>> bit Y-Not into a deep and torturous mind set. And
>>>>>>> deep down within and into his insane real self. After
>>>>>>> being Usenet castrated in the Fort, Y-Not could never
>>>>>>> again use his little and pitiful Y-Not nic. And he never has.
>>>>>>> ++
>>>>>>> The small and little Y-Not's presence on Usenet is
>>>>>>> now from the real and true Y-Not. Y-Not's presence
>>>>>>> on Usenet is from a moronic coward that is hiding behind
>>>>>>> anything that he can find.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fort Babysitter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Geeeze. Maybe you're not that crazy after all....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When Doc was 'outed' my theory is he went to ground and Y-Not took over
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> identity and has been posting as him since.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's interesting! LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> But how did he get the password to Doc's hushmail account?
>>>>> And, would Y Not as Doc do some really stupid things no one who's been
>>>>> accused of Y Not ever did so bad? I don't think so. Would Y Not ever
>>>>> attack Grant? No. Would Grant attack Y Not as Doc, even criticize him?
>>>>> Impossible! LOL
>>>>> I see the same Doc here who attacked Y Not so hysterically in the past,
>>>>> who still can't stop accusing people who criticize him of being Y Not.
>>>>> I see the same Doc who tries to split up friends and supporters of
>>>>> people he fights with, and tries to manipulate them to attack who he
>>>>> wants. I see the same Doc who uses personal info to attack people, and
>>>>> never apologizes for all the wrong he does.
>>>>> There IS a difference, however, in this new Doc (since just before Y
>>>>> Not left), and the old; sometimes he tries to not do these bad things.
>>>>> Sometimes he remembers that fighting here serves no GOOD purpose.
>>>>> Sometimes he remembers to be a better man. Then he is accused of being
>>>>> that ultimate better man, in the eyes of some, Y Not, his former arch
>>>>> enemy, the stoic target of resentment and hate of all the fragile
>>>>> paranoid egos who ever inhabited the Fort. He can't win! LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> From my viewpoint, the old simpler Doc was more fun to play with. This
>>>>> new Doc requires a little more work, but I'll live with it. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Mover
>>>>>
>>>>> Ps He's never going to like me. LOL
>>>>> That's alright. I never wanted to lick boots anyway. I wonder what kind
>>>>> of Polish he uses. Hungarian? LOL
>>>>
>>>> That certainly is an interesting (amusing even) version of events. Would
>>>> Grant attack Y-Not?? Ha the puppets act out the play dictated by the
>>>> pulling of the strings.
>>>
>>> I don't see strings. Nothing to gain by them. Results don't show
>>> evidence of useful purpose. Therefore, you should check your delusion
>>> for more justification, or Occam's Razor could slice your head off. LOL
>>>
>>>> The new 'voice' of Doc is different. It's obvious to anyone who has
>>>> followed
>>>> your dialogue with him in the past
>>>
>>> What dialog? He doesn't go out of his way to reply to me. I don't ask
>>> for it, either.
>>>
>>>> Even you admit his style has changed. Of course. It isn't that Doc.
>>>
>>> Changing styles doesn't have to mean different people, Duey. LOL
>>> Quack! Quack! Quack! Quack! Quack! Quack! Quack! LOL
>>>
>>> Doc was much nicer before you showed up at the Fort (he loved Y Not),
>>> then he changed to fanatic combatant. Then he changed to being nice,
>>> and pulled you into his attack he started again (this is the Doc you
>>> fixated on, just as he intended), then he went nice (you were disgusted
>>> with him for that), and then attacked again (ah, he's right again),
>>> then he went nice (the traitor was lost to you), and then... You should
>>> get the idea. All through this he was still the same person. He keeps
>>> changing back and forth, like he was into a fifth. A whole case, a
>>> whole brewery of it! LOL
>>> Which is the REAL Doc? There isn't one. Never was. Because HE doesn't
>>> know.
>>>
>>> Very young children can form Attachment Disorders when their parent(s)
>>> change their behavior patterns significantly, after the child has
>>> formed a fixed association for the parent(s) previous behavior pattern.
>>> In their simple logic, "parent = this". Parent does not do this but
>>> does that = "not parent". When they become older, and don't realize
>>> where their feeling of family alienation comes from, they sometimes
>>> form a fantasy of being adopted to explain it. Some children go so far
>>> as to believe their parent has been abducted and replaced by an alien.
>>> This could be your problem. You need Doc to be one way you've fixated
>>> on. When he isn't, to you he can't be Doc, so he must have been
>>> replaced by the very alien Y Not.
>>> Now are you sure you want to be prancing about around here being the
>>> poster CHILD of such a juvenile psychological disorder? I hope not! LOL
>>>
>>>> "...the stoic target of resentment and hate of all the fragile egos who
>>>> ever
>>>> inhabited the fort..." Wow. If I din't know you were kidding, I'd think
>>>> you
>>>> were delusional.
>>>>
>>>> But you're not.
>>>
>>> But I was. LOL
>>> Obvious exaggeration can be a form of humor, right?
>>> But you didn't want to see it that way. Now who's delusional? LOL
>>>
>>>> More of a sociopath.
>>>
>>> More of nothing but me. LOL
>>>
>>> Sorry, there's no evidence of my being a sociopath in any of my posts.
>>> So far. LOL
>>> Nor in yours. Or, possibly surprisingly enough, in lookin's.
>>> In fact, I don't see how there could be, in the fantom partial entities
>>> we create to show of ourselves in what we chose to post.
>>>
>>>> LOL
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why should I post something you would agree with, to YOU? Where would
>>> be the fun in that? LOL
>>>
>>> I don't think what I posted about psychological things is new to you or
>>> to other people here (lots of people here know about psychology), so
>>> don't go calling me Y Not because of that. Pick a different, better,
>>> reason, if you have to use that old attack tactic that DOC invented for
>>> you. LOL
>>> Oh, didn't he once (or twice?) call YOU Y Not? LOL
>>>
>>> If you have any more buttons I haven't pushed yet, please let me know
>>> about them. I'd be much obliged. LOL
>>>
>>> Mover
>>
>> If there was ever any doubt that you are Y-Not (not that anyone who's been
>> listening in here for very long has any doubt), you removed it with your
>> references to Duey. That nic was used by me long before most of the sock
>> puppets you currently stage-manage were on scene (including Grant, Mover
>> and
>> even Awake).
>
> Not at all. I just proved I was here before you (years before Y Not
> too), just like I showed lookin, and saw all that happened.
> I saw the "Quack" being used against you, oh "portly" one. LOL
> A lot of people saw all that too, and are perfectly able to type them
> out in a post to you if they feel like it. Doesn't make them Y Not, any
> more than typing "Amen" makes them the Pope. LOL
> You always had a problem with proof. LOL
>
>> As for Doc, what you say is just bullshit and easily refuted. When I
>> appeared on the scene you and Doc-1 were embattled. Daily messages flew
>> back
>> and forth with insults. In fact, (as you well know) Doc first accused me
>> of
>> being one your sock puppets. And "...in the enemy camp..."
>
> He sure did. It's hard for anyone else but you to say with accuracy
> when you "appeared", because most posters lurk for a time before they
> start posting, and are limited in which groups they know about.
>
>> Now you say he "...loved Y-Not'. What nonsense. It simply adds proof to
>> the
>> fact that Doc = 2 (present Doc) is your invention and bears little
>> relationship to Doc -1 (original Doc).
>
> You really DO have a problem with proof. LOL
> Most posters who posted before "X-No-Archive: yes" became a popular
> addition to newsreader headers, have their posts available in the
> Google archives for all to see. You could see I'm right, but you won't.
> That would mean research! LOL
> You might take a look at Doc's recent repost of his old post defending
> Y Not against Lookin's original castration of him (regarding his
> precious balls LOL). That was before their falling out. I can tell you
> how that happened if you want. It could be very interesting what Doc
> would say about it. LOL
>
>> Nonsense also, your contention that I was "fixated" on Doc. We rarely
>> exchanged messages of any kind and then usually only about security issues.
>>
>> I never particularly trusted Doc then (I certainly don't trust him now).
>> Nothing against Doc -1 as I don't trust anyone in these groups until I've
>> known them a while and see if they are truthful or if they are true to who
>> they say they are.
>
> That means you can't trust anybody, because it's impossible to know who
> they are unless you know them in real life, and even that is no
> guarantee. Unfortunately, it also shows you want them to expose
> themselves to you. Not a good thing to hmm, expose here. LOL
>
> You do what Doc does; he does things in his posts and says in those
> posts he's not doing them. For example, his reply to a poster here two
> months (I think) ago was pure vent against other things, yet in the
> post he said he wasn't venting. Now why would he think the other poster
> would even think Doc was venting, at all, enough to justify mentioning
> it in the first place? Obviously because Doc could see he was venting,
> but didn't let himself be totally conscious of it, because he didn't
> want to. I thought that was so funny, it was hard not to point that
> out, but that would have been discourteous to the other poster.
> Your use of "Doc-1" and "Doc-2" proves my point. LOL
>
>> My first encounter with Doc wasn't even in this group and I've always been
>> suspcious because he demanded "proof I was a boylover" by sending him
>> illegal
>> pictures, movies, etc. I never did and was suspicious of him from that
>> time
>> on.
>
> Some other posters did that too. abc did that to High (I think that was
> his nic) right after abc had said he would complain to another poster's
> NSP about his porn posts to get him in trouble, and forced him out.
> You were right to be suspicious of Doc, but you weren't of abc. Why?
> Looks like one of Y Not's little truisms applies here; Double Standards!
>
>> There were some folks who, in my opinion, were who they appeared to be.
>> Grumpy was one. So were abc and Mephi. There are a couple of others who I
>> trust up to a point in that I'm pretty sure they are uncontaminated with
>> you.
>
> You're not all that good with making accurate opinions. LOL
> Paradoxically, You would be much better at it, if you could realize
> that.
> Grumpy was Boomer and other people. Mephi used a few different nics and
> admitted it. So did abc. So did you. LOL In fact, most posters did,
> except Doc. So, who were they really? Which nic was the real one? LOL
>
> How could I contaminate anybody? I never met anybody here in real life.
> Couldn't give out pig wings (swine flu LOL) even if I wanted to.
> If you mean Y Not, that applies too, if he never met anyone here in
> real life. Do you mean he invaded their minds and changed who they
> were? You like science fiction too? LOL He would have to be a master
> psychologist to be able to do that with just text, even if it were
> possible, which I doubt. Oh wait, you said he isn't one at all. We have
> more than a pair a doxies here! LOL
> Could it be your understanding of people changed, and not the people?
> Are you too covered in ego to admit to yourself you can't judge people
> very well from posts? No one can. Your fixations, not just on Doc as
> you wanted to know him, but on Y Not and other posters, show you place
> much too much credence on your non existent ability to judge and
> recognize people from their posts. None of us can, least of all you.
> Y Not was impersonated many times, probably over a hundred. Most of
> them would have gone unrecognized if the header difference hadn't been
> pointed out. The other way applies too. I could post just like Y Not,
> use all his deliberate "trademarks" (yes, it was obvious), "especially"
> his "somewhat" stilted rhythmic prose, just like anybody else can who's
> a professional writer, and still never be him, because I'm not.
> All I've said here is logical and reasonable, but can you understand
> it? Actually, the question should be WHY can't you understand it.
> Fixations, maybe? LOL
>
> Here's a funny incident you might find amusing, and VERY apropos to
> this theme:
> In another BL group, before your time, when Y Not was respected and
> admired by all (and loved too) for being a gentle scholar and
> counselor, some posters were discussing flaming. Y Not joined the
> discussion in a different way by posting a short movie of a college
> student prank of someone setting his fart on fire, and his surprised
> reaction and yells (I saved it and can repost it if you want, if I can
> remember which of the two I have was the right one).
> Many posters there couldn't believe the gentle Y Not would post such a
> thing, and accused him of being impersonated. It took Y Not a lot of
> wordy posts, against a lot of resistance, to convince them he was
> really him. LOL
>
> Too bad you weren't here before Doc's blowup, to see Y Not how he was
> then, and how he was treated in those days. You might think differently
> about this entire issue now, just as many who knew him then do now.
>
>> Other than that I just take folks as they present themselves and neither
>> believe or disbelieve them. Except for you, of course.
>
> You do what you want to do, what makes you feel good (selfish? LOL),
> irrespective of logic and facts. That makes you funny, but not always
> in a flattering to you way.
> Not that I mind. LOL
>
>> You are not to be believed. All you do and all that you pretend to be is,
>> as
>> far as I can tell, some sort of fiction. Fortunately you are given to
>> creating sock puppets that are so like you that they are easy to detect.
>
> So what else is new? Every poster here is fiction! LOL
> Well, except for Doc, since his exposure.
>
> I think you need better glasses, before you make more of a spectacle of
> yourself. LOL
>
> Mover
Tell me more about how it is you know Doc didn't post under different nics.
I didn't realize that, in addition to ALL your other skills -( psychologist,
clergyman, martial arts experts, secret spy, etc. ad nauseum) you ar
clairvoyent?
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