In article <c1a5p1plapek20qfagfevm4hfbocftfli3@4ax.com>,
<MichaellikeGod@heaven> wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 20:40:41 -0500, "::Y-Not::" <+10$-Y-Not@here.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <0001HW.BFB75C6E002F5C62F0305550@news.easynews.com>, Caprice
> ><Caprice@badluck.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Mr. Michaellikegod:
> >>
> >> Y-Not is most assuredly not interested in debating theism with you. He is
> >> trying to find out more about who you are.
> >>
> >> You have openly admitted to felonies in the groups...I won't recount them,
> >> but I think you can figure out what I'm talking about by re-reading some
> >> of
> >> your 'confessionals'.
> >>
> >> If this information and information about who you are is provided to LEA
> >> (the
> >> kind of thing Y-Not by his own admission has done), you may well be
> >> investigated.
> >>
> >> I don't think that's something you want.
> >>
> >> My adivice is to stop talking about things and in particularly stop trying
> >> to
> >> joust with Y-Not. It's a set-up.
> >>
> >
> >Well, should he follow the advice of someone who doesn't follow his own
> >advice? :-)
> >
> >Have you noticed that Michael requires proof? And he's very particular
> >about it's quality, too. Too bad you can't give him any.
> >
> >Please show evidence that I have ever provided information about
> >posters to LEA. I sure would like to see how you will try to prove what
> >I haven't done. :-)
> >
> >What I'm doing with Michael, is mostly to entertain PM, because he has
> >cut himself off from the Fort, and is missing some fun things.
> >With Michael, directly, I'm mildly interested in finding out WHICH
> >scripture, among many, he worships.
> >Another minor purpose to my involvement with him, is to help him to be
> >noticed and taken more seriously by others. I'm giving him the
> >opportunity to express himself, to someone who is actually taking him
> >seriously. Who else is doing that? Do you think anything useful will
> >ever come of his posts, if he stops interacting with me?
> >
> >Note that he called me "black". Is the messenger worthy of his message?
> >No. I wish to help him be so. Do you?
> >Which is your true priority here? Michael's welfare, or your obsession
> >to attack me wherever you can? Your reputation precedes you.
> >
> >You promised you would not use security for personal attacks, yet you
> >keep doing it, as you are doing here. Isn't your word worth ANYTHING?
> >Should I mention your past email security attack? :-)
> >
> >
> >Y Not
> >
> >
> >PS.
> >You haven't said whether you agree or disagree with what is in my posts
> >or his posts. I'm really interested in your opinions on the actual
> >issues we are debating. Please share them. Who knows, he may even
> >listen to you.
> >By the way, I just gave him a useful web reference. Think he will use
> >it?
> Hi Y-Not
> I require proof of the truth in matters. I don't regard any falsehood.
> I stick with many different interpretations of the Bible. I
> particularly use the NIV but have posted from an International
> Children's Version of the Bible among King James and others. I have at
> my disposal about 12 different interpretations of the Bible.
Good. :-)
> I do not worship the Bible. I worship God the Father, God the Son
> (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. I do not worship material things
> that have been derived out of God's creation.
Here we differ. You worship what you assume to be God's true words, as
written in whatever source you use as the Bible. It's a Book. To you it
is infallible. This meets the qualifications of worship.
> The fun things you say I am missing out on...hum, what fun things? Is
> child pornography a fun thing? Is exploitation of children a fun
> thing? Is causing a child to practice immorality a fun thing? Who is
> being damaged, the perpetrator or the child? I am an advocate for the
> child. Yea, there are some posts in here that are pure in nature like
> what BB posted a week ago and then maybe the jpp series, but most of
> the content that is posted is child pornography and I will do my best
> to post in my messages indirectly that posting such content is wrong.
> Then it is the intent of the downloader in using such content to
> portray to him/her that such content is immorally wrong to possess and
> for whatever purpose it is used, should be stopped.
I'm sorry. Here you betray one of your failings. You are not reading my
words accurately. I said nothing about you missing any fun. It is PM
who is missing it. You do not even allow yourself to see and usefully
understand what you think you will dislike in my posts. I see you do
this misunderstanding, quite a lot in your replies. I know why this is
so, but you would not like that to be expressed here.
I take great pains to communicate very accurately, being very careful
to use terms that closely match the perceived ability of my reader. I
also do research. I don't write about that which I don't know. I have
some significant health problems that cause my typing to be very slow
and painful. Please respect this. I that request you apply as much
effort as I expend in this, to fully understand what I write, or our
dialogue will be wasted.
I will discuss the exploitation of children later. Since you seem not
to know why I'm here in these groups, you may be surprised about a few
things. :-)
> I do not need to belong to your fort....I do not belong to any
> organization. I am just a Christian. I am a bond-servant to Jesus
> Christ whom requires that I go forth in the world and spread the good
> news about Him and share the gospel and give my testimony of how He
> has transformed me by my acceptance and belief in Him. I smile when I
> say this about transformation because this transformation can be for
> anyone whom God calls upon to be born again and converted by the
> washing of the blood of Jesus Christ whom washed my soul by virtue of
> the cross.
The Fort is a newsgroup that was established by a preteen boy, many
years ago (he just turned 18), for boys, and people who care for them,
to gather for social activities. It has since evolved to become the hub
of this Boy Lover (BL) community, of which this newsgroup is a part.
You can not know that you need or not need something of which you are
unaware. Therefore, it is unwise to make such claims.
> What have you tried to help me with Y-Not? You have only proved to
> yourself that you do not know Scripture because of the words you use
> when trying to convey a Scripture message in your posts. If you would
> begin to reread Scripture and use the proper word used in the context,
> then you would prove to yourself you have no argument in which to base
> your point upon.
Unless you are much older than I am, I have studied more of the
scripture than you can imagine. One of your problems seems to be that
you cannot accept that someone may know more than you do. This shows in
your replies. The other poster in this thread is like this, hence his
resentment of me, that causes him to oppose me every chance he gets.
> Actually...LOL...I find this post to be mildly intriguing and positive
> for a change without attacking my integrity. Yea, I admit I have a lot
> to learn yet for I am still a toddler in the eyes of God just learning
> how to walk with Him and realizing that holiness is possible.
We will see. So far, my comment above seems to be most appropriate at
this time. Hopefully the situation will change. :-)
> Holiness
> is worthy of absolute devotion to God. I called you "black" because of
> the way you have portrayed your knowledge of Scripture. You do not
> have the light of Scripture in your heart and your heart is closed or
> uncircumcized or I could use other words. I invite you to look up
> Scripture and provide the truth to your posts and then maybe the light
> will come on.
You do not have any knowledge of what is in my heart, unless I tell
you. I very carefully do not allow it to be expressed in any other way.
Therefore, is is unwise of you to make such claims.
My posts to you were made with scripture as reference, some of which
was actually included, that you seem to have disregarded, and the
available knowledge of centuries of intense study by thousands of very
wise men. I made nothing up. Reading the Bible isn't enough to
completely understand it. One must understand it's context and it's
history. For centuries, there have been Bible scholars whose words of
wisdom are greater than any you or I are ever likely to produce. It
would be foolish of us indeed, to disregard all they can teach us. It
is only through SHARED understanding, that we can travel beyond our own
limited abilities, to achieve heights of understanding that would
otherwise have been beyond our reach, for which we would be forever
unaware.
> God Bless
God will dispense His blessings as He Wills, and not at anyone's
direction. This also applies to His curses, if He so chooses.
It is arrogantly presumptuous, and sacrilegious, for any man to direct
Him in this.
But it is permissible, and very desirable, for a man to give his own
blessing to his fellow man.
By these words, do you now understand and accept that I am qualified to
teach this?
> t Michael t
>
I am here to give whatever PRACTICAL protection to children my presence
here can provide. I was requested to do this many years ago. To some
extent, I have succeeded. Have YOU?
But I pay a heavy price for this commitment. Do YOU?
This has caused me to be persecuted by some BLs, and the Trolls who
sometimes attack them. Caprice is one of my attackers, as you may have
noticed.
I never lie. I write only about what I know. I make a great effort to
not be in error, in my well qualified professional judgement. I
apologize when, in my own judgement, I am wrong.
I have a mission. You can aid it, oppose it, or interfere with it as
you are doing now. To aid it usefully, you must become more
knowledgeable, and more open to learning new things, and even changing
your mind about some things, when new and credible information is
presented to you. For a start, you have motivation and commitment.
That's good. But it's not enough for the newsgroups, and the population
of your chosen ministry.
In the Fort, my antagonists have been demanding that I repost my
Mission Statement for them. They have it themselves, but they haven't
posted it. For this reason I have not posted it for them. Recently,
Caprice, who has been one of them who have been requiring me to post
it, offered to post it for me, thereby admitting that he has it. Since
he seems to want to "protect" you from me, perhaps if you ask him to
post it for you, he may actually do it.
If you want, I will post my secure email address for you, but please be
aware that email is not a form of communication that has my highest
priority. :-)
Take care,
Y Not
PS.
What we post, lasts practically forever, in various searchable
databases. It is not a good thing to post something that we later wish
we hadn't. Retractions don't work well in Usenet. Our enemies can save
our posts, and use our incautious words against us. So, I advise you to
keep all this in mind when you compose your posts, and be careful to
avoid communicating something you will later regret.
PPS.
It seems likely that my antagonists will post objections to my post. I
almost hope they do.
You may find some amusement in their clumsy lies. :-)
"Hate denies reason.
Love doesn't need one."
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