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From: Moi <moi@here.now>
Subject: Re: Tories resent the poor.
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 21:31:28 +0000, Charles Lindbergh wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 20:48:35 +0100, "Ian Field"
> <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>"Charles Lindbergh" <spirit@stlouis.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:894b3ah0ttnes5h5bqgp9g6h553lee4vib@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 19:12:59 +0100, "Ian Field"
>>> <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Charles Lindbergh" <spirit@stlouis.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>news:hbpa3aplaas1nt7e2l8lh58r8jht5ilg78@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 16:04:55 GMT, Moi <moi@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 20:05:29 +0000, Charles Lindbergh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can appreciate your frustration, but do you really believe your
>>>>>>> government could run things any better? Right now, you are not
>>>>>>> subsidizing these industries with your taxes. If they were still
>>>>>>> under government control, don't you think they would operate at a
>>>>>>> loss and require taxpayer subsidy? If you never took the train,
>>>>>>> wouldn't you resent having to subsidize those who do use them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Honestly, I can't think of anything that any government runs
>>>>>>> better than private industry, can you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The British Government still subsidizes the privatized rail service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In 2013 the rail companies received UKP 4 billion, and paid out 200
>>>>>>million UK pounds to shareholders.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Part of the UK rail system (Northern rail) is part-owned by the a
>>>>>>subsidiary of the Dutch state-owned company Abellio. It's been
>>>>>>announced today that theycompany has won the contract to run Scots
>>>>>>Rail from next April.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet, with all this government involvement the rail system still
>>>>> runs like crap.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>The mail service is an example of a government running a better
>>>>>>industry that a private company. As are the armed forces, police
>>>>>>service & a national health service.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the USA, FedEx and UPS operate far more efficiently then our US
>>>>> postal service which is on the verge of insolvency. We have an
>>>>> outstanding armed forces, which is the governments main
>>>>> responsibility. Unfortunately, our armed forces are a source of
>>>>> tremendous waste and financial inefficiency. I am just not sure how
>>>>> one can truly privatize the military of a nation state.
>>>>
>>>>Hiring mercenaries (euphemistically called "contractors") - seems to
>>>>be well underway.
>>>
>>> Let me know when the United States Navy hires mercenaries to operate
>>> our fleet ballistic missile submarines or our Nimitz or Gerald R. Ford
>>> class aircraft carriers.
>>
>>Dunno about mercenaries, but civilian "contractors" aren't exactly rare.
>
> There is a very big difference between a civilian contractor maintaining
> equipment on a carrier and a naval aviator / war fighter providing CAS
> for United States Marines on the ground in Afghanistan.
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