On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:24:34 -0600, Tater Salad <Spud@MiracleWhip.org>
wrote:
>Echohead <echoheadEH@live.com> wrote in
>news:emtip4pnbjisekahhbm1a6g1u57rcnr7cn@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:31:46 -0600, Tater Salad <Spud@MiracleWhip.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Echohead <echoheadEH@live.com> wrote in
>>>news:v6kdp41fi7kdetd0nucv1tpeukb84n0fff@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey guys
>>>> You seem to be more up to date on computers than I am so I thought
>I
>>>> would ask you for some help. I have 2 P 4 socket 478 processors that
>I
>>>> need to get motherboards for, 1st one is a P4 socket 478 3.2ghz
>Intel
>>>> spec # SL6WG and the 2nd one also a P4 socket 478 3.4ghz Intel spec
>#
>>>> SL793 and I need to find a board that supports the full 800 fsb and
>>>> holds at least 4 gigs of memory.
>>>>
>>>> I do have 2 Abit VT-7 socket 478 boards but they only support fsb
>of
>>>> 533 if the processors have Northwood cores and both of mine do, also
>>>> the Abit boards have no onboard graphics which means that I would
>have
>>>> to start out buying a graphics board, which I would do with a board
>>>> that already had graphics but only later.
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be appreciated. Those Geek Squad guys at Best Buy
>won't
>>>> help you on the phone, they want you to come in to the store and ask
>>>> your questions. Thanks.............................Echohead
>>>>
>>>> EH
>>>>
>>>
>>>Good afternoon EH!
>>>
>>>I've been a buyer and a seller on eBay for about a decade, and imho
>it's
>>>a good place to find inexpensive mobo's.
>>>
>>>I did a quick search for you, and narrowed down the parameters, here's
>>>the link:
>>>http://computers.shop.ebay.com/items/Socket-478__socket-478
>>>_W0QQ_catrefZ1QQ_flnZ1QQ_sacatZ44943QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em282
>>>
>>>There's over 400 hits there, but if you want to trust the experience
>of
>>>this here computer nerd, I can narrow it down some more.
>>>If it was MY money, I'd pass on anything made by Dell, Compaq,
>Emachine,
>>>or Gateway.
>>>Emachine is low quality, and the other three tend to be proprietary.
>>>
>>>Brands I would consider: Gigabyte, HP, Abit, VIA, Intel, IBM, or MSI.
>>>After that it'd just depend on your particular needs, one of which may
>>>be cash, so I didn't bother mentioning the obvious ones like
>Alienware,
>>>which would probably be a bad idea anyways. The only reason to part-
>out
>>>Alienware and sell the mobo is because the rest of the machine crapped
>>>out, and THAT is a mobo I would avoid like the plague.
>>>
>>>HTH
>>>Tater
>>
>>
>> Hey Tater,
>> Thanks for the info and address. How do I do I know that a particular
>> board on ebay will support the 800 fsb and if it wil only support up
>> to 533.
>>
>> Duh, dumb question, I will just goggle the mobo and go to its website
>> and read about it, will also be able to e-mail the support people.
>>
>> Now how about your opinion on a graphics card? agp - pci, which do
>> you consider to be the better of the ports?.............Echohead
>>
>> EH
>>
>>
>
>Hey back EH,
>
>Your last question doesn't even need my opinion, agp wins hands-down.
>It's always electrically faster due to its design.
>
>Without boring you with a bunch of Geekese, lol, it goes kinda like
>this.
>With pci the cpu reads from disc, writes to ram, then the pci card
>requests data, the cpu then reads from ram and writes to the pci card.
>
>With agp, the cpu reads from disc, then writes to the agp aperture (an
>area of ram set aside in your BIOS for the card) the agp card reads its
>data directly from that when it needs to. (cpu does half the work as
>before)
>
>To put that in real numbers, take two cards with say, 64 meg ram each,
>one agp the other pci, the agp will be a minimum of twice as fast due to
>reduced cpu cycles.
>In the real world, the same agp would probably be closer to four times
>the fill rate/frame rate, as the pci.
>
>Should you decide to go that way, I can help you setup your aperture for
>max speed if you want.
>
>Cheers and g/l on your choice. :-)
>
>I drop in here at least twice a week, so feel free to ask any computer
>related questions you wish, I get a kick out of keeping money out of the
>hands of shops that charge $85/hr and pay their poor techies 10 or 12
>bucks.
>Half the time those shops rip you off anyways.
>
>Later,
>Tater.
>
>:-)
>
Hey again Tater,
Thanks for all of that info on graphic boards, do you know of any
good fast boards that are not too high priced? Under 200.00 would work
for me.
I did go and check that link on ebay, lot of stuff there. As far as a
mobo that will support the Northwood core cpu's, I will go to the
different websites of the companies that make the boards. I know Intel
makes mobos but they are pretty expensive. I think I will just go to
Intels website and then e-mail them and ask them to recommend a board,
or to let me know what chip sets support my cpu's, hell, if I knew
that I could just get one off of ebay.
Thanks for the info, take care.......................Echohead
EH
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